The 17 Stages of Evil - how a religion can preach goodness and know how to make you fall into the pit of evil by yourself

Hanif Qadir, Active Change Foundation, said, "IS don't represent Muslims - but they do represent Islam. Obviously, most Muslims are terrific people - but they're in fact ignoring significant chunks of Muhammed's teaching." That is true. Man made religion leads to cherry picking and deceit. The media won't admit that non-violent Muslims do not understand their prophet or are cherry-picking for it fears that the truth.

Yes - there are no verses in the Koran saying the violence must be stopped. The verse that says that to kill one innocent person is to kill everybody on earth on Allah's scales is itself hate speech. It does not help to exaggerate evil. But incredibly the Koran says in the next verse that killing is fine. The only way to reconcile the two verses is to hold that there is no such thing as an innocent person. The Koran teaches that everybody is born Muslim until led astray by man-made religion so everybody is an apostate and apostates are sentenced to death.


There is the same problem with Catholicism and other faiths.  They try to water down the potential for harm by saying that the bad ones don't speak for or reflect on ordinary members.  That is not the point.  The point is that there is a system there, a religious construct, a religious standard that is independent of what today's Catholics or whatever may say.


Born to Believe, Andrew Newberg MD and Mark Robert Waldman, Free Press, New York, 2006 page 151 and 152 gives the seventeen steps needed to make a good person do grave evil.
1 Make a set of ideals and beliefs that indicate your superiority and the inferiority of others. My observation is that this set need not and should not make it too obvious.
2 Apply enough logic to make the set look reasonably acceptable. It must ring true even if it is not true.
3 Make it clear what your followers have to do in terms of behaviour. They at least need to be a group.
4 Reinforce the previous steps with literature and the internet and so on to make the beliefs ingrained.
5 Make members contract and commit themselves to the previous steps. They will develop a sense of obligation.
6 Select somebody with charisma to advertise and strengthen the beliefs. Charisma makes people want to adore you and the values you represent.
7 Lay out punishment for those who do not conform. It need not be about punishment in this world - the threat of it in the afterlife will do.
8 Stress how important agreement with the beliefs and principles is and lay out the bad results of disbelief or disobedience.
9 Urge each member to find converts. When people think others are starting to agree with them, it validates their own errors. They become too confident. They become blind to the errors.
10 Demand hate and punishment or stern disapproval of those who leave the group. You can make this one more subtle by saying, Love them and do not see them as sinners. Direct the hatred at their sins. If you hate the evil side of a person and don't allow you to see that person as evil to any degree you are in denial about your hatred for them. You are also letting yourself be subjected to a sneaky form of brainwashing. That makes you more dangerous to them than if you see them as evil and are honest about it. And if you say "You and I are sinners", you will use that as an excuse for calling say gays sinners. You will say, "They are sinners but so am I." It is a way of abusing while avoiding the consequences for yourself. If it is not abuse, then what is wrong with falsely calling somebody a paedophile if you say you are no better though your sins are just different?
11 Limit the chances for your group to discuss what is going on critically.
12 Forbid or limit and regulate contact between the group and the outside world and censor or explain away material coming from critics.
13   Find a group that you encourage them to see as the opponents and the enemy.
14 Depersonalise the group perhaps by applying a label to them and condemn them and warn against them.
15 Do what you can to make the hostility worse.
16 When turning the group against the enemy, don't use the enemies' names, and honour your own members with titles or reminders of how important they are. Maybe your group can wear vestments or a uniform to make them different and feel superior.
17 The last step is kill the enemy.
It is easier for us to commit murder through somebody else than to do it ourselves. The person who cannot stab another could get a contract killer to do it for them. Direct contact with the victim as we hurt them makes us feel guilty and ashamed. Indirect contact may not. That is why we will not run out of a takeaway without paying. We have had a person to person encounter with the cook. But if the cook released her music CD we would feel okay about putting her out of business by illegally copying and downloading her music. The reality is we care more about people think of us than about what is really best for them. That is why we are able to revere and respect religion that claims God will punish sinners for all eternity. We are not directly torturing them and its fine with us as long as God does it. In fact, we are worse than God. The sinners might get more mercy if we were punishing them directly. Our attitude helps make us happier people but all the same we are badder people. A religion that is able to get us to turn off our empathy for others to that extent is dangerous. Challenge it and do not wait until it does something bad. The Church manipulates how people feel about hurting others in an out of sight way to get them to accept Hell. The doctrine is intolerable in itself and because of what it makes us.
People know that if they want to work on feeling horrendous about the tragedies they learn about that do not otherwise affect them, they will soon be consumed by grief and terror and anger. So they switch off. The down-side of that is that the more they anaesthetise their emotions the more they will see and think of the suffering people as unimportant or as objects. It is possible to see a person as 80% an object and 20% as a person. There is an empathy problem then in most people. That is bad but it is a fact of life. But to sanction it by telling that person that God accepts their lives and connects with them in spite of their attitude to suffering people is going too far. If you objectify the enemy that makes it easier to kill him so religion is to blame for it makes that easier still.
Religion tries to turn off our concern for others think in order to get us to love morality more. If nuns showed us kindness we would be horrified if we had reason to think that they did it to please God and not us. Though they tried to make us happy it was not about us at all. If you believe in God the nuns must be right. You have to assume innocent until proven guilty. So the nuns are not to be accused or suspected of the sin of being concerned for us regardless of what God wants. But the nuns are a good example of point 16. We become mere tools with which the nuns use to please God.
Some atheists say that life is meaningless and admit that despite that they fear and hate death. So it is the head then that says life is meaningless and the heart says different. The sense that life has meaning is a feeling. Religion uses that feeling to attract and manipulate our devotion. We are being taken advantage of. That manipulation is the sum of the 17 points. They are all manipulative.


The basic and fundamental religious doctrine seems to be love the sinner hate the sin.  It is both a mask for hate that is in denial and an euphemism for “be passive aggressive.” This comes out clearest when you are expected to hate sin because you love God which means you will hate sins that do not remotely concern you. Even if you hate what somebody did to you and it is about God then it still something that does not concern you for you make it about God not you.  The hypocrisy of pretending that the fact that sin has no existence except in the character of the sinner is untrue should be the first stage.  So there are really eighteen stages. Stage 1 is the worst one and the sea in which the others swim.


Dehumanising a group - eg seeing them as some kind of inferior a little is all it takes - is the top way to sow hate and maintain it and worsen it. Dehumanising is the common thread whenever any group hates another. The path from othering” (thinking of a group as not being anything to you but other) to hating that group is a slippery slope. Othering is the oil that makes sure you will side down the slope. 


Thus you don't need to objectify if you want to guarantee that the sea of blood will come about by itself without any further help from you.

To objectify a person is a summary of many objectifications. It means you are turning their happiness into a stone cold thing, and their sadness, and their sense of identity, and their abilities and qualities and finally their value is turned into nothing. The value may be turned into a word so that you say all the right things. You are never more objectified than when people don’t value you but talk as if they do.


I would add that religion does nothing for suicide rates

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