Liar Lunatic or Lord of
All
The argument for Jesus being God as he supposedly
claimed
The Christian Church claims it is rational to believe that Jesus Christ though a
true man was also truly God. The worship that is due to God is due to Jesus.
Most scholars and researchers in the world disagree with Christianity in this
thing. Who is right? Was Jesus a liar, a lunatic or Lord of all? They say we
have to choose one option out of the three! But are there more options? And who
says we need to choose one when we can keep an open mind?
The liar and lunatic or Lord of all argument, the trilemma, is sure to pop up in
Christian arguments for the truth of the Christian faith. It presupposes that
Jesus claimed to be God - few scholars think he actually did that. The gospels
were written years after the alleged events and it was too easy to sneak in a
claim to be God. Jesus could have been lied about and never claimed to be God.
Even many Bible believers are not convinced that Jesus claimed to be God for the
texts that seem to say he did have a more complex interpretation than appears.
The Old Testament often talks about holy and not so holy people as if they were
divine. It's a poetry device. Jesus could easily have been misunderstood.
Suppose anyway that Jesus did claim to be God. Does it really matter?
What if there were several incarnations of God as man or woman and it does not
matter which one we adapt to? Nothing in the New Testament teaches the
incarnation at all so it follows that should Muhammad be God though he did not
know it the Christian has no logical arsenal against that view. The
trilemma errs in supposing that only Jesus could be liar or lunatic or Lord of
all. There could be other candidates. If Jesus is God and the Virgin Mary
is God then it does not matter who you worship for to worship Mary is to worship
Jesus when they are the one being.
The trilemma is useless for it is over-simplified. It ignores what kind of God,
or liar, or lunatic we are talking about. There are countless subdivisions in
each one. Lies and liars come in an infinite variety of shapes and sizes and so
do lunatics. And so do understandings of God.
Jesus could have been a liar through having some disorder
and not through a defect of character. He could also have been insane.
None of these would prove he was not God. So he can be liar and lunatic
and Lord of all.
Jesus could have been a big liar or truthful generally while telling one or two
strategically timed whoppers.
Not all lunatics come across as raving mad. Some are normal 99% of the time.
Nobody can prove that Jesus was sane during the few times he claimed to be God.
Jesus could have been led to think he had divine revelation that he was God.
That would mean he could make the claim without being a liar or a lunatic for it
is not that different from a priest thinking his loaf is God in human flesh.
Jesus could have believed he was God through religious faith. Jesus believing he
was God does not have to mean that mean he experienced what it was like to be
God or perceived how he was divine. If he rationalised his mistakes as a sign
that he was truly man as well as truly God and thought that his sins were not
really sins then he could have been sane as any Christian and still claimed to
have been God.
The other problem is that if visions of Satan and other beings featured in
Jesus' life as the gospels say, how you do you know that some entity was not
taking on Jesus' appearance at times and claiming to be God? Did he even know?
The Christian explanation for how Jesus can be a normal man and still God allows
for anybody to potentially claim to be God. The claim is not on a par with
somebody claiming that they can split the sun in two at whim or who says they
are going to turn sand into their breakfast right now. It is not that kind of
God claim.
There are many other things Jesus might have been. The trilemma must be seen for
what it is - an implicit threat and emotional blackmail. You are accused of
slandering God if you don't accept Jesus as God. You are accused of refusing to
be saved from sin and Hell by Jesus.
Let us look at how Christians use their beloved and cruel trilemma.
Evidence that Demands a Verdict, Vol 1, chapter 7, claims that since Jesus was
not a liar or a lunatic he must be God for he claimed to be God. The chapter is
full of the twisted reasoning and lies that author Josh McDowell is known to be
good for. Now we are going to meet the favourite conjuring trick in modern
conservative Christianity. Mormons use a version of their own to substantiate
the claims of Joseph Smith and so do Muslims in relation to Muhammad. What all
these systems use is called the trilemma for it has three main avenues, was he a
liar, lunatic or what he claimed to be and they try to debunk the first two
options leaving them with the third by a process of elimination. The trilemma
does only one thing: leave them more desperate for evidence than when they
started for it is a crock. It is attractive for it seems simple and is handy for
fooling people who are more influenced by their feelings than their heads.
McDowell begins with the claim that Jesus said he was God. The Church could have
come to think that Jesus was God and read this back into the gospels. The
gospels could be history seen in the light of later insight or legend-makers.
McDowell says that would have been dishonest and the gospels wouldn’t do that
but when the entire Roman Catholic Church sees no dishonesty in that why
shouldn’t the early Church have had the same view? People do differ on such
things.
McDowell will then say that there is no evidence that the Church read later
dogma back into the New Testament. In that case, there is no evidence that it
didn’t either so we don’t know if Jesus claimed to be God or not.
McDowell then proceeds to argue that if Jesus really claimed to be Lord of all
and God then we must either accept or reject this claim. That is a lie for we
could still be open-minded. And we have to be for there is more to think about
that the mere liar and Lord and lunatic trilemma. No matter how much evidence
there is for Jesus not being a lunatic or liar we are still entitled not to
believe he is God because such a claim needs absolute proof - or perhaps very
strong evidence might suffice. A process of elimination is not a great way to
approach the man you call your saviour! Would a girl be happy to marry you if
you thought she was the best of a bad lot? The lies and hypocrisy of
Christianity's defenders do not show real respect for Jesus. Their love for him
is superficial.
It is less ridiculous to hold that there is some mistake in the evidence that
Jesus might have been God than to hold that Jesus is God. When God comes first
we need outstanding proof that any man claiming to be God is God before we can
accept him and that is only out of deference to the divine majesty. McDowell
would condemn us for not accepting his evidence and makes it plain that he does
when he had William R Bright’s Foreword saying as much in the book and he will
even say that to oppose the evidence is to oppose God who set up the evidence.
But the truth is, each person perceives evidence differently and some need more
evidence than others and people differ in the kinds of evidence they need. Some
people can be convinced by gossip.
The next failure in McDowell’s scheme that is that if Jesus was wrong about
being God then he was either a liar or a lunatic.
But this should be that he was a liar, a lunatic who was evidently sick or a
lunatic who was sane apart from one thing his belief in his deity, a man who was
possessed by the smartest demons in Hell who were masters at appearing to be
angels of light, a man who thought he was God and was sane or a robot sent by
aliens to act like a man-God just for their amusement. There is no end to what
Jesus might have been. Maybe he had one of the alien implants that people go on
about these days that made him do what he did. It is easier to believe that than
to believe that he was God for aliens are possible and it is scientifically
possible and we must only bring in the supernatural when we have eliminated the
possible which can never been done.
If you think there is a Satan Jesus could even have been blackmailed by Satan.
Satan given God’s antipathy towards idolatry would have wanted a new false God
set up – an up-to-date version of the Golden Calf.
Maybe the Devil manipulated a very good man so that if he really was the most
incredible demonstration of true morality that ever lived that this would be
known and our failure to be like him would discourage us? Remember, how St Paul
said that the Law of God given through Moses increased sin simply by teaching
people about what sin was whereas they would sin less without it being more
simple-minded. McDowell would certainly agree that the lofty morality taught in
many Catholic apparitions is from a demonic source so the demons do good for
some secret evil plan so Jesus could have been demon-possessed. All of this
shows that McDowell’s apologetic is irrational and worthless because of the
omissions it makes.
The determinist believes he has no sin so Jesus could have believed he had no
sin because he was God. He could have believed he was God though he did make
mistakes. There is no doubt that Jesus did make mistakes like when he insulted
the High Priest and got a slap for it. Some say that does not refute his
divinity because he had to be fully man as well as fully God. Jesus
understandably could have seen his actions that would have been considered to be
sins by anybody else as mistakes in his case. In that he would have been
philosophically correct for evildoing is a mistake but for some reason he
believed other people were not like him and their bad acts were sins. That is no
more abnormal than a homosexual thinking he is the only homosexual in the world.
Jesus could have believed he was God and been sane. Yes it would have been
strange but aren’t we all a bit peculiar? It is no more bizarre than believing
that the eternal God died for your sins and that the Holy Spirit has assured you
that this sacrifice removed your sins. That is saying that the infinite God did
something incredible and impossible to believe for you. People believing that
Jesus is God on flimsy evidence is just as strange as Jesus believing himself to
be God. Jesus was surer of his own existence than he was that others exist
meaning that he showed far more commonsense in believing that he himself was God
than they show in believing that he was God. We all have stupid ideas in our
heads that stay with us all our lives and Jesus’ stupidity produced very
different behaviour from many of us. Jesus did not claim that he could do what
he liked as a man or knew all God knew. If he claimed to be divine, he saw
himself as an ordinary man through whom God did miracles much the same way as
any saint would be an instrument. I am trying to say, he would not have claimed
to experienced anything as if he were God and thus he is in a totally different
category from people who think they can make the universe disappear in five
minutes and bring it back if they feel like it or who claim to know all things
as human beings.
Richard Dawkins says that Jesus might have claimed to be God and making an
honest mistake. This has raised eyebrows for Dawkins considers belief in God to
be delusion - self-deception. The implication would be that Jesus was more
deluded than the other believers in God for he goes all the way and claims to be
God. Self-deception looks like an honest mistake and can pass for it but it is
not an honest mistake. If you let yourself be fooled even by yourself that is
not a sign of honesty. Some religions believe that God is really a rank or
principle rather than a person. For example, God in Mormonism is a man who has
divine status but who is not intrinsically God. God is really a rank or a
kingship. Jesus then could have been claiming to be a God of that sort and that
would allow for making an honest mistake. Though his belief is strange it is no
stranger than popular belief in God. The Christian delusion that God and
goodness are the same and that good is a person and that person is God is far
worse than thinking you are going to sprout wings and fly over the moon or have
done so. It is even more detached from reality than thinking you are made of
cheese and not flesh. If a normal person can be that odd so could Jesus.
We read in Patricia Cornwell’s Portrait of a Killer that the psychopath has an
abnormal desire to be admired (page 273). Each psychopath is unique. He might
strictly avoid certain antisocial actions such as stealing or fighting and be a
rapist (page 27). There could be any combination of good and bad behaviour.
Jesus could have been the epitome of morality with the psychopathic disorder
emerging in the form of him claiming to be God or the Son of God or the Saviour.
The moral image would have been necessary to evoke trust in him so that he could
indulge his behavioural disorder. The psychopath is one thing that Jesus could
have been that Christians never draw attention to for they know they cannot
disprove it.
Jesus telling a lie does not necessarily mean he was the biggest scoundrel ever.
The trilemma lies that he would have been. Notice how that lie does not really
respect Jesus. The trilemma is about manipulation and shows that Christians do
not love Jesus but what they want to believe about him.
To refute the liar hypothesis the believers have to argue that Jesus was
sinless. In fact they can only assume that he never lied that is all. They
cannot prove it for Jesus might have lied only when there was no likelihood of
getting caught out. Some people do. And there are decades of his life which we
know nothing about. We know (assuming you can call what the gospels say
knowledge) only of the public face of Jesus. It is saner to assume that Jesus
lied than that he was God. To say you are sure Jesus never lied in his life is a
lie itself. If Jesus wants you to tell that lie then what does that say about
him? It is arrogant to say the least!
The pride of men being able to judge that Jesus’ morality was perfect is
astounding and especially when they never even lived with him! If Jesus knew
what he was talking about he would have written The Gospel According to Atheism.
Strange that the man who came to make us all humble before God should depend on
people not having the humility to recognise that their moral perception is
flawed due to so few teaching proper morality. It is scandalous to hold that
when Jesus was so supposedly noble at his trial for example that it is an
evidence for his immaculate holiness for the gospellers never tell us how they
knew what happened at the trial and they all indicate that they were not
present. None of the apostles were there.
There is the possibility that Jesus was blackmailed by the Zealots or some group
to do what he did. The Zealots could have been looking for Jesus to create a
messianic movement around himself that looked forward to the coming of Jesus
himself or somebody else as a militant messiah. Perhaps they wanted the people’s
religious fervour increased to give them the confidence to attack the Romans.
Perhaps Jesus was part of a grooming process but was killed before his movement
could be led by him into terrorism or violence.
Perhaps Jesus thought if he claimed to be a Messiah of peace it would correct
the Jewish yearning for a violent Messiah and when revised it would lead to
peace.
The notion that Jesus had to be good to claim to be God and get people to
believe in it is a shameless lie for he was claiming to be a God who wrote the
Bible and who lied about justice and said it was just to stone gay men and
adulterers and heretics to death! A good man dissociates with that kind of
scripture and religion - period. He has no excuse for giving any support tacit
or otherwise. And not when the religion itself says you must avoid any dubious
movement and keep out for it could give you the apple that makes the whole batch
rot and warns that human nature is easily ruined - a little evil soon leads to a
lot.
Jesus went about preaching and praying and did the occasional so-called miracle.
It is lazy to cure people by snapping your fingers - the person who cannot do
that but who gives all to care for the sick is a far better person. His example
is nothing compared to the "miracle" of ordinary people who give up all they
have to go and suffer for the poor at great personal cost. It is an insult to
honour him as God. There are pagan humanitarians who deserve supreme honour and
why is it given to to a faith-head?
Nothing at all can be done to refute the possibilities about Jesus that the
trilemma pretends are not there. You don’t sentence a murderer to life in jail
unless you have eliminated the possibility that he was forced by someone or was
driven by abnormal compulsions and if he is surrounded by evidence of the
supernatural you know that it is possible demons are blackmailing him so you
can’t jail him. In the same way, you cannot find Jesus guilty of being God and
even less so when that is the most stupendous claim possible.
It is not that we should be asking if Jesus was a liar or a lunatic or God. We
should be asking if the gospel records are lies, legend, lunacy, divine or
influenced by mischievous spirits. And we should remember that if Jesus had
unexplained powers that does not mean he is infallible or right about everything
or has power over your soul. The powers could have fooled him into thinking he
was God. And some theologians think that Jesus though God could still have erred
if he was fully human. All that needs to be sorted out so the trilemma is
simplistic. Sort that stuff out and then we might work out that Jesus really
claimed to be God and meant it and then work out if we agree with him.
Christians do not have the honesty to admit the errors in the dilemma and they
do not tell the whole truth about it. They know it would be hard work doing
things the right way so they use the trilemma to manipulate people and bypass
the work that needs to be done.
The collapse of the apologetic can prove only one thing. And that is that Jesus
was a fraud if he claimed to be God. There was no point in Jesus making this
claim unless the apologetic would work. The trilemma is an over-simplification
and it is certainly true that if he was God Jesus would have wanted it to be
easily verified with something like it. He claimed that evidence was necessary
to back up his claim when he said that he did miracles and good works and rose
from the dead to show the truth of what he was saying about who he claimed to
be.
The trilemma utterly fails. It cannot be convincing when all it can get us to do
is MAYBE assume that Jesus was God. If you are going to assume it is a waste of
time to even think about the direction the evidence points in. It is immoral to
be happy with a mere assumption that Jesus is God and it fails to recognise that
you need serious evidential and ethical reasons for assuming. It is too serious.
The trilemma leaves you wondering if Jesus really wants to be adored as God!
Jesus could have been really God and because no sane person would
see themselves as God he would have wondered if he were in fact
insane. There was no way even the rudimentary
psychologists of his day would have agreed with him. He must
have believed he was either insane or God. And nobody suggests
that an insane man can be just as much God as one that dies on a
cross!