Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?


"We are all sinners" is used as an excuse for a religion being evil

That excuse is common among people who are confronted with what their religion did some years or centuries ago.  But they need to be reminded that when the religion was butchering the innocent everywhere that its members who suspected this was wrong used the same excuse.  And then nothing was done!  A bad religion feels supported by thinking that each individual member and each person on earth is anti-god and sinful anyway.

When you point to the evil done by the Church, Christians say, We are all sinners. We repent our sinful deeds. But their response needs unpacking.

*We are all sinners its a human problem not a Christian one and who are you to judge being a sinner yourself?  And you dont know what you will do to somebody tomorrow.

COMMENT: That is actually an ad hominem against you!  Not only do they do grave evil but they look down their noses at those who point it out!

*We are sinners

COMMENT: You are accused of the sin of blindness if you do not believe in sin or that the only difference between a violent sinner and a non-violent one is the sins that they are attracted by. Nobody has the right to disrespect you and accuse you when it should be "innocent of sin until proven guilty". If you can be proven to be a wrongdoer it is then necessary to prove that that wrongdoing is sin. Sin and wrong are not the same. There can be no sin without wrong but there can be wrong without sin.  Wrong considers what was done to a person and sees right and wrong as being about what it means to be human.  A calculator made by chance not by a person still means to calculate so don't allow the notion, "Only a God can show us what it means to be human" in here.

* Repenting sin shows we are trying to deal with sin so failure means our religion is good even if we abuse it.

COMMENT: Repenting sin is a scam for getting people to think, "The evil they have done is in the past.  We must move on in peace and friendship."  Moving on does not mean abandoning the evil of the past.  It means reminding the religion of what it has done and that it still matters.  It means working together for the sake of peace not for the sake of the religion.  The repentance thing is an insult to the people who were ripped open by the religion.

CONCLUSION: Religionists when they are not agents of religious evil are accomplices even if they dont see themselves as accomplices.   This is true if they can leave and go to a true religion of peace but won't.