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Patrick H


Christians brought up in a biblical atmosphere are often horrified to learn that Christ said that there was a sin that could not be forgiven in this world or in the world to come, an eternal sin. They wonder what it is and find their clergy cagey on the subject. And then they begin to wonder if they have – horror of horrors - committed it! But he who invented the eternal sin becomes guilty of the infinite malice of it.  It is vindictive wishful thinking – if you want somebody to be unlimitedly evil by committing a sin then that says how evil you are. It is pure evil to accuse people of such a sin. Jesus Christ was evil.

Jesus was supposedly casting demons out and the Jews said he was doing it by the Devil’s power. Jesus “refuted” the accusation that his exorcisms were done by the Devil’s power. He said that Satan will not put Satan out or he will have no kingdom left. Then Jesus said that the alleged absurdity of the accusation was the reason why those who insulted the Holy Spirit, who did his miracles, by attributing his works to the Devil, would never be forgiven – ever (Matthew 12:22-37). He claimed that they would not be forgiven in this world or in the world to come. This implies they will be condemned forever perhaps in the everlasting torment of Hell that Christians believe in.
Did Jesus say that the people who alleged that the healings and miracles he did were empowered by Satan committed the unforgiveable sin? Yes. And imagine what it is like if you say the big miracle of Jesus' resurrection was a satanic trick! And it is one way or another for even if Jesus was alive in some unexplained or unknown way after being reportedly crucified that does not amount to a resurrection. Satan inspired the Christian lie that it does! It is very harsh and bullying for somebody to say such a strong thing just because the true origin of their healings and miracles was questioned.
The same account in the Mark Gospel simply says that whoever says Jesus casts out demons by the Devil which insults the Holy Spirit will never have forgiveness but is guilty of an eternal sin. Jesus had not revealed Hell by then. Some thinkers say that nobody is forced to go to Hell and stay there. They simply go there because they refuse to repent and will never change. Hell is based on the idea of the damned person being unable to repent - whether by choice or by force. So his hearers would have assumed that he meant a sin that was committed in this life and which couldn’t be gotten rid of whether attempts were made to get forgiven or not. The sin would be beyond forgiveness.  By implication, if you survive death you will still not be free of the sin and are stuck with it eternally. All that is what he meant, for to interpret you must put yourself in the hearer’s shoes. Certainly Matthew interpreted Jesus that way when he felt he could clarify Mark’s wording by stressing the sin would never be pardoned in this life or the next.
When Jesus was so desperate to scare his critics into silence and into acceptance of his powers as having a divine origin with that ridiculous threat it shows that he was manipulative and wanted to stop people thinking straight. He was cruel and hard and deceitful. He was a clone of the Satan he pretended to hate for he didn’t want the people to consider the issue of the origin of the miracles objectively which meant that he believed himself that God had nothing to do with them. An honest man does not need to terrorize but an insecure fraud or Satanist does. It is absolutely certain that Jesus believed in forced conversion for it was his aim to force these people to see him as the infallible Son of God. What makes it worse is that the Jews knew and Jesus knew that just because it looked like he was casting demons out that it didn’t mean he was really doing so! Failed exorcisms or people who relapsed into possession were well-known.

But anyway what is this eternal sin?

Christians say that it is stubborn hatred of God. It won’t be repented which is why it cannot be forgiven for God forgives all who harbour genuine contrition.
But all the Jews couldn’t have been that stubborn. The sin cannot be the sin of obstinacy. Obstinacy involves blasphemy but it is not blasphemy. Jesus said the sin was blasphemy, insulting God verbally and sincerely by calling him evil. Also that is the sin that started him talking about all this so the context supports this. The blasphemy may be caused by hardness of heart but it is the blasphemy that is called unforgivable. He is not on about hardness of heart at all.
The interpretation that Jesus just meant a free and permanent rejection of God is absurd for you don’t say even of a stubborn sinner that they are guilty of an eternal sin!
In Matthew 12, where he speaks of the unforgivable blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, Jesus tells the Pharisees to declare a tree rotten and its fruit rotten or declare a tree good and its fruit good one or the other. He then says to them that they cannot say anything good for they are evil inside and are a brood of vipers. He tells them they are wholly evil. That in itself would not mean they cannot change.
Jesus said that whoever insults the Son of Man will be forgiven but whoever insults the Holy Spirit will not. So if the word insult meant insult until death without remitting then why did he say that those who blaspheme the Son of Man will be forgiven? If you stubbornly blaspheme the Son of Man forever you will not be saved either. He meant that you could be left outside salvation forever just for saying something about the Holy Spirit in a moment of anger even if you relent the next minute.
Jesus never said that the accusers were that stubborn and a person can mock the Holy Spirit without being incorrigible and he would have accepted the doctrine of the prophet Ezekiel that God could melt the most hardened heart. His meaning is that all who commit the sin are destined for everlasting perdition in Hades. We dismiss the view that the sin against the Holy Spirit is stubborn lifelong impenitence for it is sheer speculation. There is no justification for it in the text.
Others say that it is final impenitence, the sin of choosing to go to Hell as one dies. This sin cannot be pardoned for there is said to be no repentance beyond the grave for one who dies in hatred of God.
None of those people were dying. Dying isn’t mentioned. Again, Jesus said the sin was blasphemy, insulting God verbally and sincerely by calling him evil. Impenitence wouldn’t be described as blasphemy for that is too unclear.
Luke 12:10 merely has Jesus saying without qualification that whoever speaks against him will be forgiven but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. He says it to his disciples not the Pharisees or scribes. There is no mention of him dealing with those accusing him of using Satan's power to do exorcisms in Luke. He says it clearly and simply. He meant what he said despite the efforts of liars in the Church to twist the meaning. No rational person would take him to mean anything other than the straightforward meaning.
Against this some state that Jesus never said his hearers committed the unforgiveable sin. He is said to have indicated that they were merely in danger of it. But the text as given in Mark 3:20-30 says they said his works were from the devil and he said that anybody who says that cannot be forgiven and the text says he said this BECAUSE they said he uses the devil to do his works. Read verse 30. The statement is an attempt to get around the text. Plus he spoke of people saying his works were from the Devil. He passes no comment on whether he thinks they meant it or not. Blasphemy means using speech against God. The sin was blasphemy pure and simple.
Another point, he said, "I give you my word." Then he went on to say that all blasphemies men utter will be pardoned but whoever blasphemes the Holy Spirit carries the guilt of this sin forever and will never be forgiven. He asks us to take his solemn word for it like it were an oath. He is emphasising that what he is about to say is to be taken on faith. It would be obvious that you cannot enjoy a relationship with God if you hate him. You would need somebody to tell you if a sin cannot be forgiven such as a particular form of blasphemy. That is what Jesus is doing.
How could the sin be final impenitence when Jesus says it will not be remitted in this world? There is no point in saying that when you are talking about a person who has just breathed the last breath. It would be nonsense to say final impenitence cannot be pardoned in this world if it only happens as you leave it. Jesus never mentioned deathbeds. It is the insult not the stubbornness he has a go at. It would be absurd to say that the sin of final impenitence will not be forgiven in this world for it is a sin that is only committed on the brink of leaving it and it is not forgiven for you die and it is too late then to change.
God simply will not pardon the sin of speaking against the Holy Spirit whether or not it is repented.
The sin cannot be 1 or 2 so it must be 3.
Jesus said that any insult could be pardoned except the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. He didn’t mean, “If you stubbornly refuse pardon and refuse to repent you will not be pardoned”. That is as strange as saying, “If you take the plane to Spain you will not get there by plane without the plane”. The sin was distinct from impenitence.
God prevents repentance in the person who commits this sin. Christianity teaches that God only accepts repentance that is supernal in motive and cause and origin. All the repentance in the world will make no difference unless it is this kind. The sinner could believe that he or she has really repented for insulting the Spirit and get a surprise on judgement day and learn that the sense of peace with God was an illusion. The Bible warns that feelings and beliefs are worthless and that the only light is the word of God. It is the final arbiter.
We cannot give God the repentance he accepts for forgiving sin unless he helps us. If the sin is unpardonable only for the stubborn then Jesus would have said so but he didn’t. So God refuses to give the grace of the repentance that he accepts to the person who blasphemes the Holy Spirit.

Jesus and Paul believed that there was nothing a human being in its natural state could do that was not tainted by sin so even the good works are full of spite against God. This is absolute proof that the eternal sin was simply heresy and heresy is the blasphemy of accusing the truth of God of being hellish in origin. Once you committed the heresy of ascribing evil to what was really divine you would be excluded from Heaven and not even God himself would change that.

Jesus has made it an unforgivable sin to knowingly speak ill of the Holy Spirit. God either ignores those who repent it or he deprives them of the grace they need to repent it. Christians have to accept the latter view for they hold that there is no real goodness in life without divine assistance.
This interpretation has the support of tradition. The earliest tradition is in the Didache an early record of the apostles teaching. This book claims to be without error. 6:1 See that no one leads you astray from the way of this teaching, since all other teachings train you without God.
It is clear that the sin against the Spirit is not just about offences against Jesus but against anybody who speaks for the Spirit and who is dismissed without justification.
Here is the data from the Didache regarding how its an eternal sin to insult the Holy Spirit.
11:4 Let every apostle who comes to you be received as the Lord.

11:5 But he must not remain more than one day, or two, if there's a need. If he stays three days, he is a false prophet.

11:6 And when the apostle goes away, let him take nothing but bread to last him until his next night of lodging. If he asks for money, he is a false prophet.

11:7 In addition, if any prophet speaks in the Spirit, you shall not try or judge him; for every sin will be forgiven, but this sin cannot be forgiven.

11:8 But not everyone who speaks in the Spirit is a prophet; only he is a prophet who has the ways of the Lord about him. By their ways will the false prophet and the prophet be known.

11:9 Any prophet who orders a meal in the Spirit does not eat it; if he does, he is indeed a false prophet.

11:10 And any prophet who teaches the truth, but does not do what he teaches, is a false prophet.

11:11 When a prophet, proved true, works for the mystery of the church in the world but does not teach others to do what he himself does, he will not be judged among you, for his judgment is already before God. The ancient prophets acted in this way, also.

11:12 But whoever says in the Spirit, "Give me money,"or something else like this, you must not listen to him. But if he tells you to give for the sake of others who are in need, let no one judge him.
CONCLUSION: Jesus said that saying the works of the Holy Spirit come from evil is an unpardonable sin for God simply will not forgive it or grant the grace of repentance to the one who commits it. The Church agrees that he was saying that those who say this suffer a basic evil in themselves (see the note in the NAB for Matthew 12:33-37). He incites hatred against them. He says they are basically evil as persons. 
Having established that Jesus has made it a sin to knowingly speak ill of the Holy Spirit we find errors in his teaching that prove he was a charlatan and that he himself certainly blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

We have all insulted the Holy Spirit for we have all called his works the Devil’s work or as good as. Doubting God’s revelation is calling the spirit a liar according to Christian dogma and the Bible. To call God a liar is to call him the Devil. Unbelief is a sin. We have all doubted and disbelieved. Is Jesus saying that none of us can be saved?

Jesus just wanted to kill his listeners with despair for he never acted like one who believed that nobody could be saved when he preached to them which brings out the conman in him. If we can repent we prove him wrong.

Some Christians point out that all sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Jesus illogically and deceitfully denied this fact for he said that anyone who blasphemed him would be forgiven but there was no hope for anyone who said something nasty about the Holy Spirit. Jesus must have thought that salvation was impossible for the person who committed this blasphemy on the Spirit. If he was told that all sin is this blasphemy he might have replied that this was only true if they directly meant to offer it to the Holy Spirit. But direct or indirect it is the same result: the Spirit is still insulted. He might have thought that those predestined to salvation would not commit it even in sinning for God preserved them like he allegedly preserved him (and his mother if the pope is to be believed) from sin.

When Jesus warned that it is better to lose your life in this world than to sin he implied that sinners would face something worse than death, everlasting punishment. Jesus is hinting that we can commit a sin that will never be pardoned. We will see that he also said that it can be committed in this world and not just as you leave this world.

“It is impossible [to restore and bring again to repentance] those who have been once for all enlightened, who have consciously tasted the heavenly gift and have become sharers of the Holy Spirit, And have felt how good the Word of God is and the mighty powers of the age and world to come, If they then deviate from the faith and turn away from their allegiance – [it is impossible] to bring them back to repentance, for (because, while, as long as) they nail upon the cross the Son of God afresh [as far as they are concerned] and are holding [Him] up to contempt and public disgrace” (Hebrews 6:4-6).
The Amplified Bible’s note “because, while, as long as” is incorrect. You don’t say it is not impossible to bring blasphemers back as long as they blaspheme and blasphemers can change so the verse means something that is impossible to stop doing.
Some say a Christian is means a person who is saved once for all by Jesus and whose Heaven is guaranteed.
Christians who say that once you are saved you are always saved say that the text does not refer to saved people losing their salvation but to those who draw near to being saved but then draw back. This seems to be an erroneous interpretation for all Christians have resisted prior to conversion and up to the point where they decide to convert. The text complains that you cannot make the people it condemns repent meaning that it is plain to be seen that they are so godless that it is a waste of time inviting them to repent. So the text could mean people who draw near and make their opposition to Jesus obvious and hold him up to public shame. They have committed an unpardonable sin.
They could be people who don’t have the kind of faith that God gives, supernaturally caused faith. It is possible to be a believe in Christianity on the human level without letting God give you the gift of faith. Faith is seen in the Bible as union with God and belief is a part of it. It is the work of God.
The favoured interpretation is that true Christians who repudiate their supernatural faith and apostatise lose their salvation and will never be saved. Repentance depends on the grace of God. God has made their repentance impossible for he will not help them to repent. Any repentance they have is just human repentance or artificial where God is concerned and so it is not acceptable to God who says that repentance that pardons is supernatural and bestowed by grace.
Catholics say the passage is about the results of mortal sin despite their sentiment that it can be repented. It is possible that it does refer to real Christians but not to them losing their salvation. The Bible believes that Jesus obeyed God in the sinner’s place to please God for the sinner. They will not be forgiven if they leave the faith nor will they believe again in this world.
Read Matthew 5: 13-16. Jesus said to his hearers that they were the salt of the earth and that once salt loses its flavour it is no good and cannot be made to have flavour again. It is only fit for throwing out for people to trample on it. Believers say that salt was used to preserve. But he is discussing salt from the taste angle. When he does not say anything about it preserving he has the most common use in mind - salt favouring foods. Why does Christianity lie about him meaning preservation? Because if only his followers flavour the earth as he said then that means he is saying they are the only good thing on earth. They make the earth worthwhile. That is a highly offensive and divisive statement. He clearly implied that you could become beyond redemption in this life.

Jesus himself blasphemed the Holy Spirit with his evil and vile doctrine. He is in Hell forever if that blasphemy cannot be pardoned.
Further confirmation that this unpardonable sin existed. He should know if it did for he committed it.

The doctrine of the eternal sin leads to dangerous and frightening sectarianism. Suppose a Christian faction claims to be the true Church. It follows that anybody who believes it and hesitates to join it is committing a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. It was not that the Jews insulted Jesus so much as the Jew’s refusal to believe in him and support him that Jesus called blasphemy against the Spirit. It was like they were resisting the evidence the Spirit provided for him and regarding it as false. They were making a liar of the Holy Spirit. They were blaspheming.

The Mormon Church is the only “Christian” denomination that takes Jesus seriously when he spoke of sin that guarantees you will go to Hell forever or unpardonable sin. Paul declared that the body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit so it would seem that murder would be the same sin as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. So what was Paul doing claiming to be an inspired apostle and prophet of God then for he admitted that he was a killer himself. Paul was a fraud and his visions were from Hell. So Paul the true founder of Christianity was in conflict with the idol of Christianity, Jesus! What a shambles! What depth of folly is in crediting the Christian gospel with uprightness and integrity? The Mormon Church regards murder as an unpardonable sin and despite the Roman Catholic claim that apostolic tradition and the universal belief of the early Church is as much infallible revelation from God as the Bible the Roman Church does not believe the early Church doctrine that if you sinned after being baptised there was no forgiveness in this world or the world to come. The early Christians had no quality of life thanks to the gospel and their only consolation was the hope of Heaven. The Cathars later believed that there was no forgiveness after baptism which they performed by laying hands. This doctrine led to people committing suicide to avoid sin as soon as the hands were laid. The doctrine of the eternal sin which is so easy to commit and yet so fatal implies that it is best to go somewhere where you will be martyred for your good deeds and your faith so that you are gone from the world before you can be deprived of any chance of Heaven. The Church is accountable for murder simply by preaching the gospels. It serves no purpose to argue that the Church does not mean any harm by promoting books that talk about the eternal sin for that is like telling somebody to kill their neighbour and then saying it was not your responsibility if they go and do it.

A decent God would not have doctrines like the unpardonable sin. He goes down to the sinner’s level and lower by having it. The tradition of such sin and its lengthy prevalence in the post-apostolic Church shows how the early Church must have been in the grip of terror and fear thanks to their “gospel”. The apostles used terror to get power and to be able to dictate to people what God allegedly wanted. Writings that seemed to blaspheme Christianity were destroyed or allowed to fade out of existence lest they would draw people to the unpardonable sin. Jesus whether non-existent or evil could not have hoped for a better propaganda system so that he became a fleshed out saint in the brainwashed eyes of the Roman Empire. The gospellers knew their drivel could not stand on its own for it was a pack of lies so they put in the veiled threat that anybody that said their hero was empowered by Satan would be guaranteed to be lost forever so that they would become too scared to see or care about the real truth in those superstitious times.
The Church has gone to a lot of trouble to hide the meaning of the eternal sin doctrine. It doesn’t like it. The doctrine led to the Cathar heretics committing suicide in case they would commit the sin. The doctrine is vile and proves that the gospels are nonsense. The Church cannot complain if people take it all literally for there is no hint in the text of any other interpretation. The interpretation is legitimate and should be respected.