Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

 


WHY RELIGION IS PRO-PERSECUTION THOUGH IT DENIES IT

Religion is treasonous in a secular state. Religion says the state only gets its authority from being right and bad laws should be disobeyed when necessary. Since they say God alone is right it follows that the Law should not be separated from religion and God but has to draw authority from him to have any authority that ought to be obeyed. They claim that morality comes from God and that God is the most important thing meaning a morality without him is a sham which entitles them to take over the state. Godís rights matter more than ours for God is the all-good maker so the state ought to prevent any criticism of Godís true Church in the interests of Godís rights.

Religion is forcing people to join it and those who are in it to stay in it with the threat of their horrendous doctrine of eternal fire for those who die in disobedience.

The love the sinner hate the sin advice that religion gives is just asking us to put up a kindly front while simmering inside with hate and evil. The principle really means that you should hate others so much that you pretend you donít. You simply cannot hate the sin when the sinner produces it of his or her own free will for the sin reflects the kind of person the person is. Sin is not a thing but something that sinners do. It is part of them. Sin is regarded as an infinite insult to God who deserves only infinite kindness from us so that shows how strongly religion sanctions hatred.

The religions all say that real love does not try to control other people. Religion lies when it says that forcing people to convert to its doctrines is no good for it has to be done freely to be of any value. Force done the right way will decrease the numbers of unbelievers eventually.

Infant baptism is regarded as valid even when it is done against the parentsí will. Baptism is thought to be necessary for salvation and makes you a member of the Church. The doctrine that baptism is essential for salvation suggests that the state should enforce baptism on all babies. The welfare of the baby comes first.

The scriptures of Christianity and Islam state that idolatry is a terrible sin. Idolatry is the worship of what is not the one true God. But to really worship anything you have to be sincere so this sectarian and arrogant dogma of idol worship being sinful is an indictment of sincerity. It is a very serious slander. When that is allowed persecution has to be for condemning idolatry that way is persecution. Excommunication, a practice sanctioned by all authoritarian and power-crazed cults, is also anti-sincerity when it involves the excommunication of heretics. A heretic has to be sincere. Clearly, religion will do anything to present itself in a credible and good light which is why any evidence it provides for its credo is unacceptable.

The Church says if you have the option of being killed or insulting Jesus or denying the faith you should choose to be killed. That clearly implies that you can kill yourself if you find that your faith is going to disappear if you live any longer. You can kill your friend when you see that his faith is slipping away.
 
Jesus and the Koran taught the doctrine that those who die at variance with God will be tormented in the flames of Hell forever and there is no hope of escape or possibility of repentance.
 
You need a vast pile of evidence before you can say anybody deserves to rot in Hell forever for that is such a serious punishment. The evidence would need to be better than the evidence that JF Kennedy was shot. The case for Islam and Christianity which both believe in Hell is not that strong Ė and non-existent from a philosophical point of view. To say that God even if he is all-good which we cannot be totally sure of has the right to damn people forever is to make nonsense of all we know of right and wrong for you need to know why he does it and prove that that his reason is plausible but no explanation is possible. If God can be good and do that then he can be good and command the murder of heretics. It is a serious slander to say that anybody could be that bad that they would choose an eternity of misery. God must do something to the damned to make sure they donít repent. He must cut off good influences from them. All that whitewash about people going to Hell against the will of poor helpless God is nonsense and is so common and obviously ridiculous that it casts doubt on the integrity of Christian teachers.

Belief in an all-good God who makes diseases and things like that for a purpose causes extreme selfishness and religious selfishness is habitually clothed in the robes of humility and compassion and virtue. For me to say that a child dying of AIDS in Africa is suffering for the divine will is the same as me thinking better the child than me for I would not change places. This evil cannot be for a purpose when it causes such a pile of arrogance and malice. God is an idol for the violent.
 
I need absolute proof before I can have the right to say that God exists and lets a child suffer and is justified. If I donít and a little is enough, then what right have I to say that a paedophile who raped me as a child was intentionally doing wrong?

The religions forbid doubt and then they go and try to make each other doubt to get converts. That is intolerance and bigotry.

 

The number of religion members who are violent in its name immaterial as if violence is not heinous when one does it as it is if a thousand does it.  Religion fundamentally is about the antithesis of that principle so no wonder it is trouble and must not blame individuals alone but blame itself as well.  It is high commitment that matters.  If that commitment involves suicide bombings and religious war mongering then the committed show us what the religion is like more than the lazier members.  The proof of the pudding...
 
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