Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

 


"Lord I am not worthy" as a core subject of what prayer is about

Jesus told us to pray, "Our Father, your will be done." He prayed, "Father let your will be done not mine".

One reason it is all about God is that God alone is considered truly lovable.  ďThe first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and will all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than theseĒ (Mark 12:29-31, King James Bible).  The neighbour is only loved in connection with God, that is, "God made you so to respect God I respect you." 

It is said that prayer does not change God but is about admitting that you are not worthy of what you ask and saying you will try to be. It is about aligning to the will of God.  So if you think of ways having money will make you holy that means you will try to be holy as if you had the money. So if you donít get the money you will be holier. The question is then what do you ask for money or health or anything for? Its pointless. Prayer implies a judgment on yourself and others. If prayer is just about matching up to Godís goodness and trying to be worthy of what you desire rather than getting what you desire then it is more judgmental than ever.  It is saying nobody should ask God for good health as if you don't deserve it or you do not matter.  Prayer implies you are trying to manipulate yourself and therefore others. If you are asking for money and saying it is only so that you can use to to be holy you are lying to yourself. You just want the money and think God is stupid enough to give it to you. It's magic and superstition.  You cannot win. 

Say prayer does get results.  Prayer will be seen as the ultimate way to resolve all issues and if you have faults it is your fault for not praying.  You will not be compassionate with others for long if you think the victim of life and its imperfect is to blame for not praying right or enough.


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