Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

 


PRAYING TO GOD IS HONOURING HIM AND RISKING BEING OKAY WITH A BAD OR UNCARING GOD MAKING TERRIBLE DISEASES AND ALLOWING TERRIBLE EVIL TO HAPPEN

 

God by definition is the good being we do all things for. 

 

If evil can fit the existence of an all-powerful and all-loving God, that means it is entirely up to him to deal with that. We have no business saying it fits God because we are too prone to masking callousness and we are complex creatures who are never as good as we want people to think.  Just as it is not up to us to love somebody else's children when they have parents so that is not up to us either.  It is too easy for us to be interested in this god allowing evil to happen for we want evil and want to condone it and want to cherry-pick morality.  The doctrine even if true and good will be abused.  This is guaranteed for you cannot relate to God as one person on earth to another so there are no checks in place to stop that abuse happening.

 

If Jesus is God's perfect son and he prays for sinners and those who suffer then what are we praying for?  What can we do that he can't?   How can the prayers of a person who supposedly has snow white motives be in any way as honourable as ours?

 

If praying out of total concern for others is possible it does not follow that we ever do it. 

 

Forgiveness

 

You cannot insult God by asking for anything when you are not interested in what he wants.  Prayer presupposes that you must seek a right relationship with God and that means repenting and seeking God's forgiveness.  While it is degrading to the other person to ask them for forgiveness when the wrong is grave, this rule is [conveniently] not applied to God.  Believers think the slate can be washed in a second either by a prayer of contrition or going to a priest for forgiveness.  Forgiveness needs to be difficult for both wrongdoer and victim otherwise it is cheap and the evil is being treated as unimportant and the way is paved for it or something similar to happen again.  It needs two-way communication.  You cannot deal with God as you would a parent you hurt.  You need the arguments and the struggling and the uncertainty that comes from wondering how the other one feels about you today.  To want the slate just washed is immature and selfish and shows you want to be clean without doing it properly.  To want it erased more slowly and carefully and over a sensible period of time - bad crimes need years - shows you are on the right track.

 

God is all-forgiving.  The spiritual notion that sorry is enough to cancel grave sins trivialises sin and that has to have an effect. Mature forgiving is a process that demands a lot of talking and hard work from the offended and the offender. Religious forgiveness is not forgiveness at all for that element is missing.  If God can forgive that way then he can make a square circle after all.  There is no debate with God.  If a person is harmed then the perpetrator looking for the feeling that he has got forgiveness - that is a disgrace and an outrage.  Religious forgiveness is just being soft on the sin as long as some kind of sorrow however weak is expressed.  The weaker the repentance the bigger the insult.

 

Forgiveness from God is about changing how God views you.  It is about his opinion.  Thus it is not really about making any change to anything important.  That is why the Catholic idea that priests forgiving sins is a sacrament is so odd.  A sacrament is healing but what is healing about the judge ceasing to have a condemnatory view of you?  As God comes first or alone matters in the Christian scheme, it follows that the bad person treats God's approval as a reward.  If you do something terrible and that is what you want and you think you get it then why is that so important to you instead of changing?  Nobody should be asking for forgiveness.  They should just change for everybody's sake.  You can do both yes but

 

Prayer is inherently about forgiveness from God and thus prayer is evil and condones evil.  It is implicitly evil.  Few make it too explicitly obvious as well.

 

Randomness or indeterminacy

 

Random by definition is that which is causeless so it can do x or y and there is nothing anything can do about what it does.

 

If the random is not real as some say then it must be harder to make a non-random look and seem like a random than to just make it obvious that all is being controlled.  There would be no point.

 

You cannot wish for just one random.  One random is not a random so wanting a random means wanting a lot of random.  One random when everything else is is planned means the random is being controlled and is not a random.  To control 9 out of 10 lotto balls means that you are in fact controlling the one left over albeit indirectly.  Indirect can be as much control as direct. Sometimes more.

 

So random and reckless are the same thing.

 

Why Prayer is Implicitly and Explicitly Condoning Evil that Befalls Others so that You can Benefit

 

We like the random to exist when we feel it can give us wealth or health that a God can keep away from us.  This is arrogant and unrealistic and magical thinking for the random by definition can be very dangerous.   By definition it can give you a fabulous existence and then take it away in minutes and leave you wishing you had never been born.  The fruit will be fear and greed as you will need to battle and hurt others to keep what the random has given you. 

 

Many prayers are really wishes that the dice will favour you randomly.  You want luck not divine intervention and you must think God is stupid.  Or you are confused.  If is luck you want then you have not much confidence in God's help.  You are saying, "Keep out of this situation and let luck work its magic.  Create a state of affairs that functions as if you did not exist." But while you ask that you put yourself at risk for the random can hurt you as well as help you.  And what about other people?  What if luck starts a war that kills millions but for some economic reason boosts your country's economy and you get all the good luck you want as a result?  Looking for good luck is very Darwinist for we all know that there is not enough good luck for everybody!  Children have to die and suffer because of bad luck and you can and do get an advantage out of it.  Even bad things happening to others is good for you even if it is simply bad happening to others.  But often you get benefits from it too.

 

Part of the reason we may be so bad and belligerent at times is that we want to create chaos so that luck will find its place in the mess of randomness.

 

People hate each other but though we want to torment and perhaps destroy the people we hate - if we see killing as too good for them we won't - we usually do not have the guts to act on it except by hoping and by praying and trying to magically induce evil to befall them.  If we will not attack them it is because we fear how it shows us how rotten we are or we fear the dire consequences, the trouble it may bring us.  Or both.  We can fear being bad inside even if we act good for we don't like reminders that we are not as good as we want to think we are and want others to think.  We know that being bad inside is a problem for evil is wily and grows legs.

 

If the hate gets severe enough we will take action and tell ourselves the gods or luck will be on our side for deep down we know one reason we should hold back is that we could be hurting ourselves more than the other.  We see the hate as trying to restore a balance - keeping the good things for the good and away from the bad.  We might make a difference between restorative and retributive justice and there is a difference but human nature always combines them.  It does them both at the one time.

 

It is easier to do grave harm to others as if we will be lucky when we do it as part of a group.  Being in a group and feeling supported by others encourages you to think that you and they will get good luck.

 

People rejoice when bad things happen by pure chance to people perceived as a menace or whom they bear a grudge against. For example, what if Hitler got struck by lightning?  They are so happy as if they both want to think somebody did it or sent the accident.  It does not matter that if it was a complete accident or random then nobody was to blame.   They want to feel it is. 

 

Prayer despite its pretence at love and humility is really asking the random to fall in your favour.  By default that means you are asking the random to disadvantage or even kill others.  Even if you are asking for spiritual gifts such as humility you are still doing that.  You are virtue-signalling before your God.  People do this because they seem to believe both that God creates all and that yet there are events that just happen. They don't worry about fitting them together.  The Bible demands for prayer encourages them.