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Christians claim that God can see what is going to happen in the future. He is a celestial fortune-teller. They also claim that in order that we might be able to show that Jesus was his Messiah, Prophet and Son that he foretold things about him in the Old Testament.

One is struck by the importance that the biblical Jesus attached to fulfilling what the prophets of the Old Testament allegedly foreseen about him (Matthew 5:17; Luke 24:27; Luke 24:44; Matthew 26:56; Luke 4:20,21; Acts 3:18; Luke 22:37; Acts 10:43; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; Matthew 2:4-6; Acts 13:29; Acts 17:2,3). He used these prophecies as credentials. If he was wrong about them then he was not the son of God.
Scholars agree that the prophecies do not fit Jesus and were never meant to.
The Christians respond that it looks that way but God put the prophecies together in such a way knowing that the first Christians would by using their method of interpretation see that they matched Jesus. God inspired the interpretation method. This is just a cop-out. Anybody could make prophecies using that kind of standard.
The Bible that Christians plunder for the prophecies is not the Bible but a mistranslation called the Septuagint.
This fraud was enabled by St Augustine among others.
“For the Septuagint translators are justly believed to have received the Spirit of prophecy; so that, if they made any alterations under His authority, and did not adhere to a strict translation, we could not doubt that this was divinely dictated.” “And therefore we find that the apostles justly sanction the Septuagint, by quoting it as well as the Hebrew when they adduce proofs from the Scriptures.”
(St. Augustine, City of God)


Let us examine the alleged prophecies about the coming of Jesus in the Law of Moses.

Jesus claimed that the Law predicted his coming (John 5:46,47; Luke 16:31). When Jesus said in Luke 24:44 that all that was written about him in the Law had to be fulfilled it alarms us for the Law makes the most banal predictions that are taken for references to him. A man who is so easy to please with evidence is worth watching. The context says that he claimed that the Law predicted his death and resurrection! It never even predicted his death!

* Genesis 3:15. God tells Eve that her seed will crush the head of the snake that enticed her to sin which will strike at his heel. 'The Hebrew says, “He will bruise thy head” ' (page 23, The Case for Jesus the Messiah). So, the seed refers to a special male person who will be either Eve’s son or her descendant. The Hebrew word translated crush or bruise means to do severe and irreparable damage (page 24, The Case for Jesus the Messiah).
Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus crushing Satan by letting Satan put him on the cross which ended in the world being saved from Satan. Jesus by atoning for sin on the cross took the world from Satan and crushed Satan's power. 
The Hebrews consider this prophecy to speak of the Messiah (page 25, The Case for Jesus the Messiah). They thought that the Messiah would wage war against evil and crush the serpent’s head that way.

The Truth. The prophecy does not speak of Jesus for it is most likely to be literally true when it could be literally true in the sight of the author of the prophecy. The Bible reports miracles so talking snakes would be possible in the Bible view. It is stupid to say that the talking snake must be a symbol for talking snakes don't exist. The author of the prophecy was surrounded by religions that had even more bizarre beliefs.
God said that the snake would die for it would crawl on its belly all its life. It was a real snake. So the person it would attack would be somebody that was born in Adam’s day for Adam would be expected to outlive the snake. The person who would kill the serpent would be either Abel or Seth who were sons of Eve.

The seed’s being bitten was to be a punishment for Eve so it was not Jesus who was so far down the line that she would not have cared if he was crucified ten times over. Moreover, Jesus’ death was not meant to make us sad when he told the ladies of Jerusalem not to mourn for him and was to be a source of joy for us for it saved us from sin. Sin was Eve’s biggest problem now and she would have been delighted to hear that somebody was going to save her.

Eve was to have a baby who would grow up to be bitten by the snake. He will kill it but it will have struck at his heel. We don’t know if the baby dies or not but he will suffer. If this stuff is metaphorical, then why is it Eve’s seed’s heel that is attacked and not his neck or abdomen. Why is it where it could do the least damage? This suggests that the seed will not die. The physical attack will not be fatal. Christians may respond that Jesus’ death was only temporary and not serious which is the explanation. But aren’t all our deaths supposed to be temporary? You would not speak of a death and resurrection using the metaphor of a heel being bitten for something like a failed attempt to kill would be pictured by it better.

We know that the “the word “enmity” in the Hebrew Scriptures always refers to hatred between persons. It is never used between and animal and a person” (page 22, The Case for Jesus the Messiah). The serpent is a personal being – not necessarily a symbol for a person for God could make snakes that were as personal as ourselves. So if Jesus is the seed then Jesus must hate the snake and his seed. But Jesus loved everybody unconditionally according to the New Testament so he was not the seed.

Rome used to say that it was not a male who would kill the snake but a female, the Virgin Mary. This was based on an alteration of the original text made by Roman Catholicism. But if Roman Catholicism were correct, it would mean that the saviour was to be a woman!
Perhaps Mary was to kill the snake just by giving birth to Jesus the enemy of the snake? Surely it would be more correct to say that Jesus crushed its head by becoming man in her? He did the most. He did the work. Rome says that Mary saved the world by consenting to give it the man who save it but the gospels do not say if God really cared about her consent or not. He could perhaps have sent Jesus to save us without using Mary's womb to bring him into the world.
When you say that somebody will save, you mean that that person will be directly responsible for saving and cannot use the words to refer to that person’s mother saving others by bringing the person who will save into the world. Never assume an indirect sense when the sense could be direct for you must keep things simple.

Jesus did not do the head of the serpent any grave damage by dying on the cross. If smashing the head of the serpent is symbolic then it suggests Jesus turning the Devil into an imbecile or killing him. Otherwise the symbolism can mean whatever you want it to mean.
If Jesus was harming the serpent’s power then why not say that the seed will break the Devil’s body which will be more apt?
According to the New Testament, Jesus did not crush the Devil’s head for the Devil is still active and working harder than ever. The Book of Revelation says that Satan will have more power than ever before some day. And moreover, Jesus’ atonement was able to save before it happened for God sees the future so the prediction of a crushed serpent is meaningless if you adopt the Christian understanding for it was crushed the moment Satan left Heaven. To say that Jesus crushed the Devil in himself by resisting sin is silly for that would be no punishment for the Devil who couldn’t expect to win over the Son of God or God incarnate. It wouldn't be a punishment for Eve either.
Will Jesus crush the Devil by throwing him into Hell someday when there is nobody left for him to tempt? Leaving him with nobody to tempt and mislead is hardly crushing his head and besides he has the damned to work on. They would be more profitable to him.
* Genesis 49:10. This says that the scripture, the power to rule, will never leave the tribe of Judah until Shiloh comes and the people will obey him.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus was born into the tribe. Shiloh means the peaceful one. Jesus was supposed to be the prince of peace. The people have not obeyed him yet but they will. The prophecy is said to indicate a time when the Son of God would come.

The Truth. Judah did not rule Israel for a time until Jesus came – Rome did that though there were Jewish puppet kings like Herod the Great (Herod 1 The Great, Biblical Concordance). When the verse is about kingship and when it says that Judah will rule until Shiloh comes and that Shiloh will be obeyed it is plainly saying that the people will obey Shiloh when he comes. The Jews did not obey Jesus. The verse isn’t about the people converting but the time of the second coming.

Jesus told the world that the Prophets, the Old Testament apart from the Law, predicted things about him. The New Testament says he belonged to the line of royal blood that God cursed. God vowed that the line of Coniah would never reign. So Jesus was not Messiah or king. Christians lie that God forgave the line but no clear evidence of that exists in the Bible. Its just speculation. There is something amiss when they have to use speculation especially in a matter so serious. Because if they are wrong, they are following a bogus Messiah.


* Malachi 3:1. God says that he will send a messenger before he comes to the Temple as the Angel of the Covenant.

Alleged Fulfilment. God sending John the Baptist as a forerunner for Jesus and visiting the Temple in the person of his Son.

New Testament Interpretation. It imagines that this is the fulfilment (Matthew 11:10).

The Truth. John the Baptist initially believed and then doubted that Jesus was the Christ (Matthew 11). He was no angel then. A vacillating man is not a proper forerunner but a block. God could not make such a silly prediction unless he indulges in doing stupid miracles for any Jew could fulfil the prediction.

The prophecy does not mention an incarnation so it is most likely to predict a theopany or apparition from God in the Temple.

* Micah 4:2. All nations will receive the Law from Jerusalem.
Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus will give the Law of God to all people.

The Truth. Jesus told lies about the Law. He said that when God told Moses he was the God of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob that it proved that the doctrine that people will rise from the dead is in the Bible. The Law, not a perversion of it, will go out. Where does the Old Testament say that Jesus will send it out of Jerusalem?

* Micah 5:2. In Bethlehem of Judea, will come one who had his origin from of old. In The Case for Jesus the Messiah we learn that quedem or from old “literally means from ‘ancient time, aforetime’ (page 74)”. Or it can mean from eternity.
New Testament Interpretation. Predicts that Jesus will be born in Bethlehem. Matthew deliberately misquoted the verse in his gospel to make it a more convincing prediction about Jesus.
The Truth.
Matthew took it out of context.

The prophecy says that when his mother gives birth to him the exiles of Israel will come back to it which did not happen when Jesus was born (v3). The prophecy says only that the man will come from Bethlehem so he was not necessarily born there. The man will have existed before he was born perhaps as an angel or something.
The verse does not prove that the figure must be God as he came from eternity which only God can do. The Bible never mentions eternity - the concept comes from Greek Philosophy. The verse then if it refers to eternity means it in the poetic sense of long ago.
* Jeremiah 23:5,6. A king will come to save Israel and Judah who will be called Yahweh our Righteousness.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus is Yahweh our righteousness and will save them some day.

New Testament Interpretation. None.

The Truth. The word save can mean lots of things. Jeremiah doesn’t say if he means the Messiah or a Messiah. And he does not say the King will save but only that the people will be safe in his day. The name of the person does not mean that he will be God for the popular Jewish name, Joshua or Jesus, meant God the saviour. The king could be called Yahweh our righteousness as a nickname or title.

* Jeremiah 31:15. Rachel weeps for her children for they are dead in Ramah.

Alleged Fulfilment. The massacre of the innocents by Herod in Bethlehem.

New Testament Interpretation. The Matthew gospel is explicit in claiming that this is the fulfilment (Matthew 2:17).

The Truth. Ramah was not Bethlehem but a village five miles north of Jerusalem. God tells Rachel to stop crying for he will bring the rest of her children back. The passage refers to the return of the Jews to Israel after they were deported to Babylon. Rachel mourns those who have died and God promises to bring the rest home to console her. Rachel here is the long-dead wife of Jacob. She is not really crying – the prophet is just being poetic for she was the ancestress of the people who are dying and exiled, the people of Ephraim.
It isn’t advisable to take a poetic passage literally to locate forecasts about Christ in it.

Christians say that the prophecy of chapter 31 must refer to the time the Messiah was on earth. This is false. Up until verse 31, there is nothing that might be messianic in it. After that it starts to tell us about the new covenant. Christians say that Jesus brought in this new covenant so it is about Jesus. But God can make a new covenant without a messiah. And who is to say the covenant is the one Jesus brought in? God says the new covenant will make everybody miraculously know the truth and Israel will become holy in all its ways. This covenant is not that of Jesus Christ for it never did these things. Christians reply that it will in time but that only makes it a potential covenant!
 It is highly unfair to say a prediction is messianic when it doesn’t say that itself.

 * Isaiah 7:14.  The Virgin shall conceive and bear a son called Emmanuel which means God is with us.
Alleged Fulfilment: Jesus being born of Mary who was a virgin.
 New Testament Interpretation: The Matthew gospel says the prophecy predicts the birth of Jesus from the Virgin Mary.
The Truth: In context, Isaiah 7:14 says the prediction was a sign for king living centuries before Christ. Jesus was not called Emmanuel. Matthew read parthenos in the Septuagint the translation of the old Testament Book of Isaiah and quoted the verse with parthenos in it. But the original Hebrew – and it is only the original that counts, the word translated virgin was almah which meant a young woman. The prophecy has been altered from the original. The claim made by Matthew for the prophecy insults God's intelligence! And ours!

Luke 24:44 – Jesus said, “Everything which is written concerning Me… in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

We are going to run through the alleged prophecies about Jesus in the Psalms to see if he was right.
 * Psalm 2:7. “You are My Son; this day I have begotten You.”

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus’ claim to be the Son of God. The Church says there are three equal persons in God and that the Son, Jesus, proceeds from the Father and is begotten by God in that sense. Others say it refers to the virginal conception, Jesus being begotten by God.
It certainly means a Son of God who is unique in same way. The King of Israel was regarded as a special Son of God.

New Testament Interpretation: Acts 13:33 and Hebrews 1:5 say it speaks of Jesus.

The Truth. Jesus was a false prophet so he was not the Son of God. The prophecy could be about anybody. A man who behaves badly could still claim to be the Son of God if he says he acts this way for a good that only he can see.
If Jesus was perhaps begotten by God in the sense that God the Son comes from God the Father or perhaps being begotten by God refers to Jesus being begotten by God in the virginal conception which one is meant by the psalm? If either inference is true then it does not mean literal begetting, planting the seed that makes one a Father. And if it is not literal then perhaps begotten stands for a particularly intimate adoption that makes both God and son uniquely close.

* Psalm 8:4,5. Refers to the son of man.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus was a man and the son of man.

New Testament Interpretation. About Jesus according to Hebrews 2:6-9.

The Truth. The Psalm doesn’t claim to be a prediction. It is about man in general.

 * Psalm 132:11. The Messiah will be David’s descendant.

Alleged Fulfilment. David was Jesus the Messiah’s ancestor.

The Truth. There were many centuries between Jesus and David with many great calamities for the people in between. With the trustworthy genealogical records gone nobody could prove that anybody was of David’s line and the legitimate heir to the throne. When a prophecy predicts something that cannot be seen to have been fulfilled that shows that is a failure. God would not tell you that somebody will leave you flowers tomorrow if it will turn out that somebody will steal them before any evidence is left that they were ever left for you.

* Psalm 72. Kings will worship the Christ.

Alleged Fulfilment. The wise men coming to the baby Jesus with gifts of gold and frankincense and myrrh.

The Truth. The gospel never says that the wise men were kings but magicians. Given the Jewish and Christian opposition to magic, kings, was the last thing they could have been considered to be. The gospel says they sneaked out of the land to avoid King Herod. It would have been harder for kings with all the protection they need to have escaped from the land without Herod learning of it.

* Psalm 78:2. The author says that he will speak in parables.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus spoke in parables.

New Testament Interpretation. According to Matthew 13:35 Jesus spoke in parables to fulfil this.

The Truth. The author may have been writing about himself. All teachers use parables. The person who imagines that God would make such a senseless prediction needs to consult a psychiatrist.

* Psalm 69:9. “Zeal for Your house has eaten me up”.

Alleged Fulfilment. When Jesus put the buyers and sellers out of the Temple.

New Testament Interpretation. None given. John 2:17 simply says that the disciples were reminded of these lines when Jesus did this not that they regarded it as a prophecy.

The Truth. The verse does not state that the zealous person will cast crooks out of the Temple. The Psalm does not claim to be messianic. The composer may be speaking about himself. When he could be he is for he would not be that vague.

* Psalm 110:1. The Messiah is King David’s Lord and will sit on the right hand of God, that is, he will be the man who is next to God.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus claimed to be this person.

New Testament Interpretation. The synoptic gospels declare this.

The Truth. Jesus preached the necessity to keep praying though he said that one sincere prayer for every divine blessing was enough. He was a hypocrite so he was not God’s right hand man.
 The prophecy is alleged to be about Jesus’ ascension. But if Jesus went to God the ordinary way it would still be fulfilled. And he could have been on his right side even while living on earth.
The prophecy gives no evidence for Jesus so what did God make it for? The answer is that the prophecy is not a prophecy at all. The prophecy is speaking of any king of Israel for all kings were considered to be Messiahs or anointed ones.
* Psalm 110:3. God says he begot the Messiah before the daystar (the sun), like the day.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus existing before the creation. His being an uncreated being.

New Testament Interpretation. None.

The Truth. God could still be speaking of a created being. From his perspective all things that have happened and will happen are present to him in the timelessness of eternity so he is becoming the Father of this being before time began. God can make timeless beings. Timelessness is simply a present that never came from a past and which will never give way to the future.

 * Psalm 110:4. The Messiah will be a priest according to the order of Melchizedek.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus offering himself as a sacrifice to his Father. He was not a priest ordained by men but a priest ordained by God like Melchizidek was.

New Testament Interpretation. Hebrews alone teaches this understanding.

The Truth. Anyone could say that God made them a priest. The psalm does not even claim to be a prediction.

* Psalm 118:22. The stone will be rejected and will be made the cornerstone by the power of God.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus was rejected by his people and became supreme after.

New Testament Interpretation. The same (Luke 20:17).

The Truth. There is no need for the Christian understanding. A lot of people could be said to have been rejected and become cornerstones. Also the gospels say that Jesus was accepted before he died and he lost that acceptance and then he got it back. He had a small following among the Jews though many fans. Not many wanted to obey him and serve him. But after he died he became the cornerstone for many Gentiles. But this brings up the question, is Christianity really Christianity? Paul was the main convert maker among the Gentiles and was certainly a fanatical fundamentalist character and dangerous.

* Psalm 2:1,2. Somebody will be rejected by the rulers and will be plotted against in vain.

Alleged Fulfilment. Everybody being against Jesus.

New Testament Interpretation. None.

The Truth. It could be applicable to any king or prince or officer of Israel.

* Psalm 59:4. “They run and prepare themselves though there is no fault in me; rouse Yourself [O Lord] to meet and help me, and see!”

Alleged Fulfilment. The Jews hating Jesus for nothing.

New Testament Interpretation. None.

The Truth. It is terrible that David could not write that he had enemies he did not deserve without it being turned into a prophecy in the Christian imagination.

* Psalm 41:9.  “Even my own familiar friend, in whom I trusted who ate of my bread, has lifted up his heel against me.” See also, Psalm 55:12-14.

Alleged Fulfilment. Judas betraying Jesus.

New Testament Interpretation. John 13 alone gives this interpretation and attributes it to Jesus.

The Truth. Who hasn’t had friends turned enemies? The next verse begs God to let him get his own back on his enemies though Jesus prayed, “Father, forgive them because they don’t know what they are doing” (Luke 23:34). The psalm does not claim to be messianic. The author may be writing about his own problem.

* Psalm 35:11. Malicious witnesses speak against me and accuse me of things don’t know of.

Alleged Fulfilment: Jesus was falsely accused during his trial.

New Testament Interpretation. None.

The Truth. Some prophecy that when it doesn’t even say if it is a court trial it means.

 * Psalm 38:14. “I have become like a man who hears not, in whose mouth are no arguments or replies”.
Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus not arguing his way out of the crucifixion.

The Truth. Why would Jesus have argued when his doom was sealed? It took no miracle for him to fulfil that prophecy. But Jesus did argue provocatively and was insulting. The prophecy would best describe a man of peace who didn't speak up for himself not the likes of Jesus who did speak up but only to make things worse. Jesus' reported behaviour during his trial marks Jesus out as immoral. This would show that the prophecy was not about him for he was nothing special.

Jesus always said that he was good and innocent and even said that God would save him from the cross by sending an army of angels if he wanted him to when he was arrested. Either the prophecy is not a prophecy at all or Jesus was a fake.
The psalm is about a sick man who is suffering from a plague and a man who confessed that he was overburdened by his own sins not about Jesus who allegedly said he never sinned and who was not a plague victim.

A verse about being quiet is hardly useful as a prophecy about Christ! Can’t Christians do better than that?
 * Psalm 16:10. “You will not abandon me to Sheol (the place of the dead), neither will You suffer Your holy one [Holy One] to see corruption.”

Alleged Fulfilment. The resurrection of Jesus from the dead.

New Testament Interpretation. Peter dishonestly said that God intended this meaning (Acts 2).

The Truth. Read the Psalm and see that it never actually says that somebody will rise from the dead. It could be talking about recovery from grave illness that took the person to the brink of death. Any fake messiah could fake an illness like that and make a dramatic recovery. Only false prophets use prophecies that are not clear and specific. Peter was inadvertently accusing the psalmist of just that. Jesus prophesied that his resurrection was predicted which proves that whatever kind of prophet he was he was not a real one.

The only prophecies in the Bible that speak of a resurrection speak of that of King David from the dead. There is no need to take them metaphorically in this. David would rise to rule Israel in peace and forever according to the laws of God (Jeremiah 30:9; Ezekiel 34:23-24 and 37:24). Therefore the resurrection of Jesus marks him out as a false messiah sent by evil angels to get in the way of David the true Messiah. How? Because with David going to rise there was no need for Jesus to rise. And because nothing ever said in the Old Testament that anybody else would rise in the way Jesus reportedly did. The prophets had to avoid being vague to be considered seriously for examination to see if they were real prophets so Ezekiel meant David when he said David.

* Psalm 68:18. “You have ascended on high”.

Alleged Fulfilment. Jesus going up to Heaven.

New Testament Interpretation. Ephesians 4:8 says it speaks of this.

The Truth. An ascension of the spirit could fulfil this. It doesn’t say that it means an ascension of the body or one into Heaven. The text is speaking of the ascension of the ark, the golden chest that God’s presence rested on, up Mount Zion, the hill on which the Temple was built not Jesus.

Ephesians claims that since Jesus ascended into Heaven he must have descended into Hell. This logic proves that its author was twisted for it is laughable. It shows that the author never thought of Jesus ascending to Heaven from earth proving that the early Church never heard of anything like what is in the gospels. How? That would show that all the prophecy in the word would be no good for a story that is a heap of make-believe.

Jesus’ central credential, the prophecies that spoke of him, proves that he was not the Son of God or the Messiah. And that is because the credential is based on bizarre and strained understandings of the prophecies and in fact many of the prophecies are not prophecies at all. For example, the psalms don't even claim to be predictions and yet it is important to Christians to imagine that the future tale of Jesus is all over them. No prediction - no fulfilment. Only lies. Period.
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This site argues that Daniel’s prophecy if punctuated by the Masoretic method gives a totally different meaning from the one Christians want it to have and which eliminates all attempts to make the prophecy predict the year of Jesus’ death. It shows how Gleason Archer misrepresented a verse from Jeremiah as referring to Judas betraying Jesus for money and left out bits that proved that it did not refer to that event. For example, he deliberately hides the fact that Jeremiah said 17 shekels while Jesus was betrayed for 30 shekels. The Christians now say that Isaiah 7:14 was fulfilled in Ahab’s time but was meant to be a double-fulfilment prophecy meaning that it predicted Jesus’ virgin birth as well or that it could be applied to Jesus’ birth too and was meant to be. That is ridiculous. You could say that Isaiah 53, where the suffering and death of Christ is allegedly predicted, is geared towards a double fulfilment too. And how could either it or Isaiah 7:14 be double prophecies when they each speak of only one event? The double-fulfilment idea is just imagining prophecies of Jesus where there are none and ignoring the wording of Isaiah. The site also tells us how silly the claim that the contradictory genealogies in Matthew and Luke that were given for Jesus that they can be reconciled is. The Catholic Church claims that both lists are accurate but the differences are down to levirate marriage. Levirate marriage is when a childless man dies his brother is obliged to take his wife and impregnate her with babies that are considered to belong to the dead man. So each gospeller just chose different people as part of the line. This is garbage for they differ in the number of ancestors. And my comment is that there would not have been that many levirate marriages.
Prophecies: Imaginary and Unfulfilled by Farrell Till
This site points out that in the original Hebrew, Micah 5:2 says that the Messiah will come out of the house of Ephrathah in Bethlehem meaning the clan or family of Ephrathah. Matthew thought it meant land. Since there is no evidence that Jesus came from this family, there is therefore no evidence that the prophecy was about him though the Gospel of Matthew tries to make out that it was. Therefore it is an abuse of scripture to say that the prophecy means Jesus. Also Matthew misread Zechariah and thought he said that the king would ride on both an ass and her colt. My comment is that for Jesus to fulfil that he had to be a proper king anointed and enthroned but Jesus was never anointed or sat in a throne. He claimed to be a king but that was not much to go on. Otherwise anybody would do as a fulfilment as long as they claimed to be king. God also promised the land to the Israelites no matter what evil they did on account of his having promised Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Deuteronomy 9:3-6) and indeed gave them the land though he considered them totally undeserving (Exodus 33:1-6). His promise was unconditional and yet many times they lost the land. My comment is that in the last millennium the Jews were no better or worse than any other nation and were good enough people and still their land was not theirs any more. God broke his promise or the Bible is slandering him. But with Christians the Bible will come first. Daniel 9:17-27 Seventy Weeks of Years
This page argues regarding Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy that since the author of Daniel knew Jeremiah pretty well and how Jeremiah’s prophecy that Israel would be exiled for 70 years proved false for it was 48 years that he probably assumed that the 70 years were not literal and so he might have not meant his 70 weeks to give a specific time span. It also points out how the conservatives often add the before the word anointed in verse 25 to make it seem that Jesus is being referred to and even go as far as to pretend that the seven weeks and the sixty-two weeks add up to sixty nine weeks when they could be running concurrently and indeed must be for the writer could have written 69 weeks instead of 7 and 62 weeks. It shows that the Jewish year was not 360 days long for they had reason to add on a month every three years which means that Jesus would have died about 38 AD which Christians cannot accept for Pilate was axed in 37 AD., Steven Carr, Critique of Josh McDowells Non-Messianic Prophecies This Site cannot be overly recommended. It is superb., The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53, Isaiah 53’s Suffering Servant Israel, Challenging the Verdict, The Infamous Isaiah Scam

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