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If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

Patrick H
Gormley


What Christians REALLY Believe about Loving Sinners while Hating Sins

You don’t just hurt my nose if you punch my face, you hurt me. If someone uses my body sexually for their own gratification, it’s not just my body that is affected, I am affected – my whole personhood has been hurt by being objectified.  That is the bottom line.  Your sin is not attacking me.  YOU are!  I know I am lying when I say I love the sinner and hate the sin.  I know my religion is triggering the placebo effect and being the opiate of the people when it says it loves sinners and hate sins.  It is easy for people, popes, Jesuses and gods to love sinners when it is not their nose that is smashed.  Love the sinner and hate the sin not only abuses the sinner but abuses yourself and abuses the victim.  It is pure passive aggression.

To make sin about mere behaviour is to trivialise it a lot and to deny that it goes to the heart of the person and that this depth is what the problem is. Or in fact it is not a problem but a poison.  Believers in religion claim that free will is a core doctrine but free will that does not allow you to be a bad person but a merely a person who does bad things is not free will at all.  They are punishing "sinners" and telling them of God's retribution, especially eternal punishment in Hell, and thus showing that they are just vindictive hypocrites.

CS Lewis is so popular among Christians and is the best authority for seeing what the religion suggests and teaches.  He wrote: Whenever a very badly brought up boy is introduced into a decent family. They rightly remind themselves that it is ‘not his own fault’ that he is a bully, a coward, a tale-bearer and a liar. But none the less, however it came there, his present character is detestable. They not only hate it, but ought to hate it. They cannot love him for what he is, they can only try to turn him into what he is not. In the meantime, though the boy is most unfortunate in having been so brought up, you cannot quite call his character a ‘misfortune’ as if he were one thing and his character another. It is he—he himself—who bullies and sneaks and likes doing it. And if he begins to mend he will inevitably feel shame and guilt at what he is just beginning to cease to be.

How Christians can agree with that and then expect people to think they really love sinners and hate sins is unimaginable.  The sin is a personal matter and rouses hate for the sinner.  A religion that hates and hides it is worse than one that admits it. 

If you prefer yourself to everybody else and you clearly do then how can you expect people to believe you when you say you really love your worst enemies? You will not feel you are supported by others so that will guarantee that you will hurt your enemies in some way.

“We tend to become the decisions we make. The more we choose something, the more we become that something. We are all in the process of solidifying our identities by the decisions we make. With each decision we make, we pick up momentum in the direction of that decision. Just observing people can, I think, prove this point. I knew an old lady once who was the most ugly, bitter, mean-spirited person I’d ever met. As a young lady, however, I am told that she was beautiful, personable, and fun. But at the age of 19 her fiancé ran off with her sister three days before her wedding date. She was understandably humiliated and hurt. But what is most tragic is that she proceeded to choose to be hateful and unforgiving toward her sister and ex-fiancé the rest of her life. Though her sister was extremely sorry for what she had done and tried numerous times to make amends later on (over the course of 50 years!), this lady would never budge. And with each decision against love and forgiveness, she solidified herself in bitterness. Like all negative emotions which are entertained over a long period of time, her bitterness coloured her whole outlook on life. She became her hatred. She became her bitterness. The momentum of her decisions became irreversible. She no longer chose it; she couldn’t now choose otherwise! All the good God originally intended her to be was consumed by the repeated course of hate she chose. What started as her decision eventually became her nature” (page 41, Letters from a Skeptic).

And,


“The ‘snowball effect’ which is true of individual lives is also true of societies and of humanity in general… Evil tends to propagate evil, individually and societally” (page 43, Letters from a Skeptic).

Comment: How can you love sinners who are their sin?   Even if x is not the sin of avarice yet she or he is still the sin of trying to become avarice!  So all sinners are personally sin!  And the reason for hating others is down to our intuition that evil people breed and incubate, deliberately and inadvertently, evil.  Christians do admit to hating sinners but won't admit it bluntly.  They have to hate them.