Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

 


Differences between the Issa of Muslim Scripture and the Jesus of Christianity

The word Jesus means saviour. The Qur'an has Issa, the name is not Jesus. Some however claim that he is Jesus. But even if he were he would be only vaguely Jesus. He differs so much he may as well be considered a different person.  Issa cannot mean saviour for the Qur'an is clear he could save nobody and did not die on the cross for sins for he was never crucified. 

As a prophet of Allah, Issa would have agreed with calling the Jews who broke the Sabbath, "Be apes and hated."  See Qur'an 2:65.  Issa then was not Jesus who was accused constantly of disrespecting the Sabbath.

As Melanie Phillips tells us in The World Turned Upside Down, "Unlike Judaism and Christianity, which teach that divine intentions are revealed through a historical process of interrogation and discovery, Islam holds that sacred doctrines are fixed in time by Mohammed, with no further development possible."  Issa then cannot mean much either. Only what Mohammed thought of him does.

ISSA'S SPIRITUAL COMPASS

In May 2019, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, formerly of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith explained how the meaning of prayer for a Muslim and a Christian is too different and we must not pretend that both can pray like each other or with each other. One point he made is that the Christian prays like a child of God and the Muslim prays only as King Allah’s subject. The Christian prays to line up to the will of God and that God will help but this involves consent and liberty. The Christian chooses to obey God and this is best seen as a free choice and not as a subjugation or enslavement. While Christians see faith not as a list of beliefs but as a relationship with God, a friendship, the Muslim sees faith as just a natural thing like believing that the moon is round. Faith is not a gift of God, the gift of a relationship with God.

The Muslim approach totally contradicts the gospel Jesus who claimed to save us and part of that saving is about giving us God as Daddy and friend in a free two way relationship based on faith which is not of human origin but implanted in you by a miracle of God's grace.

The Bible says that death is caused by sin and God opposes death and hates it and never wills anybody to die. Jesus supposedly rose to put his stamp on that message. So any other religion simply has to say God sets up death and kills people. This shows that Islam is inherently extremist and pro-violence. Even if it never hurts anybody any other way it hurts and degrades them with such a teaching. Jesus said such a God is the devil and in the gospel of John calls the devil a murderer for getting humanity to sin and sin causes death.

MOTHER OF ISSA

Mary is the mother of Issa in the Qur'an.

Mary in the Muslim religion, is Miriam the sister of Moses. Miriam it should be noted gloated when the Egyptians were murdered by God in the Red Sea by drowning. The Muslim Mary is no angel.

The Qur'an never puts Jesus in the first century which is the prime reason this man is not Jesus.

ISSA NOT THE SON OF GOD

The Qur'an never calls him Jesus but Issa. This figure borrows from fables about Jesus but is not Jesus. As Qur'an claims to be timeless scripture, the orthodox Muslim view has to be that Christians stole elements from God's truth about Issa to invent a Jesus. Islam has no problem admitting it if the Bible evidence is that Jesus claimed to be God. That would mean Issa is not Jesus and Jesus is damned forever in Hell for its the ultimate and unforgiveable sin of shirk to claim to be God.

Issa refers to himself as the slave of Allah not the son (Sura 19:30 and 4:171).

Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger -Sura 17:15.

That attacks the Christian doctrine that the death of Jesus on the cross somehow made up to God for our sins and atones for sin.

The following shows that nobody can argue, "Allah is just against the notion that he can father a child as if he were a man. It has nothing to say on the Christian doctrine that God is Father for the son is made out of his love and begotten that way. Is a spiritual metaphor."

The text just keeps it simple. It is on about what Christians were saying which means it DOES mean what they meant.

And they say, “The Most Merciful has begotten a son.” You have come up with something monstrous. At which the heavens almost rupture, and the earth splits, and the mountains fall and crumble. Because they attribute a son to the Most Merciful. It is not fitting for the Most Merciful to have a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth but will come to the Most Merciful as a servant. He has enumerated them, and counted them one by one. And each one of them will come to Him on the Day of Resurrection alone. Those who believe and do righteous deeds, the Most Merciful will give them love. 19:88-96.

This clearly says that any notion of son being a metaphor for somebody who is not a mere servant but like an adopted child of God is rubbish. Jesus' sonship is denied in every sense. Jesus will not rise until the day of resurrection and his gospel of being made fit for Heaven merely by repentance is false for God does not love you unless you do enough good works.

The Church Jesus claimed to be equal to God in the sense that he could forgive sins. If he was God's son that was one way he functioned as God's son. The Qur'an is clear that nobody forgives sin but Allah: And those who, when they commit an indecency or wrong themselves, remember God and ask forgiveness for their sins—and who forgives sins except God? And they do not persist in their wrongdoing while they know.

This quote from Allah contradicts Jesus' parable of the lost sheep: He thus cuts off a section of those who disbelieved, or subdues them, so they retreat disappointed. It is no concern of yours whether He redeems them or punishes them. They are wrongdoers. Sura 3:127,128.

This may seem minor but it is not and changes what Jesus was totally about or opposes it.

Sura 42:11 has Allah declare that nothing is as his likeness or like him. This is a challenge to Jesus's statement that he was the image of God. The Bible stresses that Jesus is the image of the unseen God.

Sura 61:6 says that Issa is a messenger of Allah who brings a gospel of one who is to come after whose name is Praised One. That was all Issa was good for so it is no wonder we read that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the messengers and prophets. See Sura 33:40.

Sura 7:11-12 says that the angel Satan was commanded by Allah to prostrate himself before Adam the first man and would not do it which was why he was expelled from Allah's presence. Satan said he was better than Adam. That was his sin of pride! So Issa being parented by Gabriel is not a compliment! And Adam in a sense deserves near-worship more than Issa does.

Another place has in mind the notion of any person being equal to God. Remember that Christians speak of the Father as if he were God and of how the Son is equal to God:

Lord of the heavens and the earth and what is between them. So worship Him, and persevere in His service. Do you know of anyone equal to Him? And the human being says, “When I am dead, will I be brought back alive?” Does the human being not remember that We created him before, when he was nothing? By your Lord, We will round them up, and the devils, then We will bring them around Hell, on their knees. Sura 19:65-67.

The human being equal to God who expects to rise again is the Bible Jesus. Allah threatens him with Hell...

ISSA WAS MARRIED

It was narrated from Sa’d bin Hisham that he came to the Mother of the Believers, ‘Aishah. He said: “I want to ask you about celibacy; what do you think about it?” She said: “Do not do that; have you not heard that Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, says: ‘And indeed We sent Messengers before you, and made for them wives and offspring’? So do not be celibate” (Sunan an-Nasa’i 3216).

As the Qur'an (65:4) says, it is okay to marry a child before she menstruates and even divorce her. We don't know what age Issa's wife was. We can assume she may have been a child if we want to. The divorce rule is that a woman who has stopped having periods you can wait three months before divorcing her. And "for those who have no monthly course of blood it is the same." It is true that the historical Jesus however forbade child brides from divorcing their husbands even though they had no right to anyway. He said a woman who divorces her husband is forcing him to commit adultery.

THE UNIMPORTANCE OF ISSA

There is evidence that a figure some take to be Jesus was worshipped before he was allegedly born. This Jesus was a god and like most gods was probably an invention. I do not think this Jesus whose name is Issa is really Jesus Christ.

Even if he were, the Islamic creed denies gives him relative unimportance.

Issa is called faultless but so is John the Baptist (19:13). Thus it is best interpreted as saying that a prophet is very good but not completely sinless. Qur'an says Muhammad himself needs to repent! As there is no difference in the prophets according to Allah it follows that Issa was not faultless in the absolute sense.

The revelation given by God through dictation in the Qur'an goes, "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."

“Believe in Allah and his messenger, and the Scripture which he hath sent to his messenger and the Scripture which he sent to those before him. Any who denieth Allah, his angels, his books, his messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.” (Q 4:136 The Holy Qur'an, tr. Yusuf Ali). Jesus is not even mentioned while the New Testament makes Jesus central and the way and the truth and the salvation. In practice, the revelation means considering only the Qur'an as pure and any other scripture as corrupted so though it may have the word of God you need the Qur'an to sort through the fog. In reality the only authority is the Qur'an. So as Jesus virtually is the New Testament he is being rejected in favour of the Qur'an. Jesus is equated with unknown prophets such as Hud, Salih, Shu‘aib. The idea is that there would be no problem if Allah wrote in the Qur'an about Hud instead of Jesus!

In Qur'an 46:8-9 Muhammad says he brings no new doctrines and is only a warner and revealer from God. He adds that “I know not what shall be done with me or with you.” This refers to his ultimate fate – he is not sure if he is going to Heaven or Hell. As Muhammad is claimed by the religion and the Qur'an to be the seal of the prophets and the one who even Issa predicted as his superior and the greatest prophet of all, it follows that if he is not sure of salvation and there are no guarantees then there is less for Issa.

Muhammad is Islam and Islam is Muhammad. Qur'an 3:85 is clear that anybody who wants to join a religion other than Islam will be a loser in the afterlife and get no Heaven. This opposes the New Testament doctrine that fellowship with Jesus leads to Heaven for Jesus is the only way to God in Heaven and alone is the truth.

EZRA SON OF GOD?

The Qur'an says in 9:30 that the Jews consider Ezra to be the son of God and that is blasphemy. But it was obvious and common knowledge that the Jews were harshly monotheistic. Nobody thinks the Qur'an is actually lying. The explanation is found in how the book sees saying anybody is God's son in any sense, adopted or honorific is blasphemy. Even Muhammad was not seen so much as a preacher of God but as the one getting the dictated word of God so that the Qur'an had nothing to do with him and he was merely Allah's instrument for delivering it. The religion is about avoiding man's word passing for God's which is why God had to use the dictation method for giving his word. Jesus did not use that method if the gospels are to be believed. That eliminates him as an authority or son of God in any sense.

So the Qur'an God complains that the Jews honour Ezra as the Son of Allah and the Christians honour Messiah as the Son. It says Allah fights them for such doctrines and they are perverse and have taken as Lords besides Allah their rabbis and monks (Sura 9). It is clear from this that the problem is is saying somebody is the voice of God. Ezra was never seen as anything other than a man and its true the Jews saw him as a son of Allah like other men would have been. The warning is about how prophets can be respected in themselves as holy men when they should be seen as mere mouthpieces for God. Messiah and Ezra are put on the same footing. There is no evidence that any Jews ever honoured Ezra as the Son of God. The Qur'an claims to address the big issues not what any small sect was saying. So overall the evidence is that it was opposing the Jewish veneration of Ezra instead of just caring about how he gave the Jews the word of God.

ABROGATION

The Qur'an asserts the right to annul or abrograte the teaching of the likes of Issa. This denies Jesus' assertion that he is the Truth and the Word and the Logos.

Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom -  see Qur'an 22:52.

Qur'an 9:29 cancels anything that commands peace towards the Church or the Christians. The verse goes, Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

Thus opposition to Christianity is enjoined. You can see that as self-defence or as something else. If you choose the former then Christianity is potentially Islamophobic.

LAST

The name used is Issa in the Qur'an and though Issa has similarities to Jesus he is not Jesus. We must remember that with certain religious figures you do have a lot of broad similarities on average. Consider the popularity of dying and rising saviour gods in the pagan world and the association with female deities and fertility. The Qur'an is clear that Issa did not come for his own sake or message but to proclaim the coming of Muhammad. Ecumenical people tell lies to make religions look more alike than they are. Muhammad alone is claimed to have been able to get the dictated wholly reliable word of God, the Qur'an, which is why he is the only prophet that is really necessary assuming Islam is the true faith which it claims to be. Too much is made of the claim that Jesus is a prophet of Islam - Islam is founded on Muhammad.

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