Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

 


DO MAGIC AND PRAYER ONLY SEEM TO NOT WORK?  DO THEY ACTUALLY WORK IN CONTRARIES?

Magic or praying when done to help somebody does the reverse.  It may simmer or whatever but it is not simmering to produce anything nice.  It is a big thing in modern spirituality that nobody can hurt you unless you let them. This mentality blames the rape victim, for example, for being upset and devastated about being violated. If God helps and God does miracles, if magic helps and magic does miracles then this vicious attitude is more justified than it is. If there is supernormal or magical power available to help, it is far more the victim's fault for suffering than it is if there is no such power. That is the kind of malevolence that people who say miracles happen are engendering. Roman Catholicism upholds saints who suffered beyond belief for the faith as examples of how people can have peace and joy no matter what others do to them. The Church says these people turned to God and trusted him so much that nobody was really able to hurt them - they were so happy they might not have even registered the physical pain. So the Church then needs to explain why we should disparage rapists if the victims cause their own suffering. So the Church needs to explain why we should disparage paedophiles and child molesters for the victims have chosen to hurt themselves because of the abuse. It is small wonder with an attitude like that how the Church has so little sympathy for victims of child sex abuse. The Church has to think that the victims damaged themselves in relation to how they responded to the abuse and so the abuse itself did little harm. The Church has to think that the victims are evil for wanting the molesters punished for what the victims did to themselves.

Haiti with its religion of voodoo is the magic and fortune-telling capital of the world.  Yet it is not a well-off country at all.  Secular nations that discard magic and omens are the ones to admire.  They have good healthcare and nobody is killed by depending on magical charms and predictions that do nothing.  Saints, Messiahs, witches, spoon-benders and psychics can and do live in misery and unhappiness.  They lose their children and the loves of their lives. They lose their health and their sanity and can die young.  Their powers are useless.  Any placebo from them is not worth the cost.

Some say that maybe magic works in contraries.  When magic is done for good things it will not help.  If it works it is doing something so it is causing the bad.  Doing magic say for good is the reason Haiti is in the state it is in.  This is an argument for using malicious spells in order to help people.  You can cast a nasty spell on John and curse and hate him and he will be better off.  But how much do you really hate John then?  The only answer is to hire a witch who thinks she is hurting him.  She can do the hate and the villainy for you.

Some believers in God hold that praying for good things to happen to people sometimes results in bad things.  This is a similar concept to what we are exploring.  Should we ask God to curse and hurt people in the hope that he will do the reverse?  People probably do that or get others to do it for them for God will know that they are trying to use evil to help.  The others who really hate the person are the ones who will get results.