Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

 




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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on an article.

Former president Mary McAleese: Seminaries in Ireland should be 'gay friendly'

I am tired of that well-educated woman blaming the Church for being homophobic as if Jesus himself is innocent of it. I want her to blame both. And her Catholicism teaches that the Church is Jesus with us which is why the Church is regarded as infallible. The Church homophobia comes from a homophobic man who thought he was infallible and who thought his violent evil Bible was infallible.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on BBC Sunday Morning Live's post.

I think the burkini should be allowed and I can see why a woman would wear one for skincare. As for the burka and certain religious outfits worn by Catholic extremists such as the unkempt beards and hideous robes worn by the likes of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal which disturb people and harm integration Id ban them

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Gavin Russell's comment.

Patron Saint of Paedophile Priests?

It has already happened. The Vatican itself thought Padre Pio was molesting women. It was sure of it and then went back on it when it seen how popular Pio had become. St Joseph Calasanz was discovered to have covered up clerical abuse. http://www.romancatholicism.co.uk/patronofpaedophiles.html and St Don Bosco quotes can be found online in which he admits to having an attraction for little boys

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.

Yes Grace I agree. If one really thinks God is love then God will do the right thing whether asked or not. To get a saint to influence him is saying the saint is better than him. The saint thing is really just a cynical Catholic ploy to attract people who want to have their other gods. They just call their gods saints. People forget as well that pagan gods with their flaws and limits are more like saints than gods. Catholicism is pagan.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Simon Hildreth's comment.

That's Tim Stanley. I have had a number of battles with him through the comments on his articles in the Telegraph. What disturbed me this morning is that the sceptic lady gave the well-known proofs that Mother Teresas miracle cure of Monica Besra was fake and that the Vatican manipulated the evidence and Stanley showed no reaction and tellingly didnt deal with what she said but went off making out that occurrences that people think are strange such as surviving accidents but which are not in a fact strange are miracles. He knows fine well religion is bunkum but waffles away and does not want to say. He made no sense.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Northern Ireland Humanists's link.

The Entertainer opens in Belfast CastleCourt: No Harry Potter figures, no Halloween stuff... what parents say about city's toy store with a difference
belfasttelegraph.co.uk

Those who think that Harry Potter and troll dolls do harm mean that the harm is subtle for they hold that Satan likes to act and look good and does evil bit by bit so that nobody can see how they have caused the harm. What people must ask is this. What right have I to say demons use such things or even exist when it leads to accusing others of wittingly or unwittingly promoting the most evil power in the universe? That is extremist and dangerous. It is too big of a thing to get wrong if it is wrong, The Bible is vehemently anti-occult or anything that leads to it so the shop is just being truly Christian.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Jon Whitworth's comment.

Official is often in the eye of the beholder. Catholics think official Christianity is Catholicism while Mormons would beg to differ.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Alex Chamy's comment.

Yes. I find that with religious revelations supposedly from God that command violence, nobody worries about them until some people start obeying those revelations. The Koran has to take the blame for some Islamist violence same as the Bible version of God has to take some blame for the religious crimes committed by Christians - eg people being killed during exorcisms and the violece of the Lord's Resistance Army. And what about Christians who claim to be pacifist while they look forward to fighting for Jesus at Armageddon?

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Kevin Monaghan's comment.

He probably thinks political correctness will protect him as the liberal nonsense spurts out of his mouth. I wouldn't be too hard on him though for the pope has a bigger voice and is just as ridiculous. The pope would deny that Choudary is a Muslim and a cleric.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Chris Seven's comment.

Catholics who supported the Catholic Church in the dark ages despite its violence and often because of it were like turkeys voting for Christmas. Religions that invite violence against each other invite it against the most vulnerable people that it classes its own as well.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on BBC Sunday Morning Live's post.

To say a violent scripture is from God IS EXTREMIST. Not all extremism need be like ISIS.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on BBC Sunday Morning Live's post.

Don't forget that Choudry has indeed killed people with words but what about Christians who RETROSPECTIVELY kill people with words too. To say the Bible is authored by God and that the writers only wrote what God wanted is to agree with the murders and genocide commanded by God. Jesus knew about that and had no problem with it. Be careful what you worship!

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What Hillary Clinton Should Say about Islam and the ďWar on TerrorĒ
samharris.org

https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/what-hillary-clinton-should-say-about-islam-and-the-war-on-terror



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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Dan Skitch's comment.

It Takes More Faith to be an Atheist
atheistrepublic.com

Life can come from non life when a tiny seed can draw in dead nutrients and turn them into part of itself and grow. Just because we cannot make life from scratch does not mean it cannot be done

Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Darren Romain's comment.

Knowing right from wrong is one thing but applying it is another. When a religion says God uses evil to do good with it it is in fact saying that evil and good are compatible. Is it any wonder that girl was confused about right and wrong?

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Lee Porter's comment.

Relativism is a cult yes and a poison and people need more relativism detectors. Relativism is like a supernatural thing. People imagine they can make something moral just by believing it is moral. That is pure magic. That is why I say that though it does not necessarily look religious or spiritual it is. And as an atheist, I am well aware that Islam with its doctrine that morality is only moral for God says so and Christianity with its Jesus who made stoning women to death right in one era and allegedly made it wrong in this one are both relativist.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Friendly Atheist's post.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Canít Baptize Son Without Atheist Fatherís Approval
www.patheos.com

The man and woman are making a big deal out of the baptism for opposite reasons. Only one of them is right. He wants to protect his child from somebody who cannot see that you don't need baptism or religion to be good. She is making the biggest deal so she deserves what she gets. She imagines the baptism will marry her child to her evil God and her lying religion and save the child from hell.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Friendly Atheist's post.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Canít Baptize Son Without Atheist Fatherís Approval
www.patheos.com

Of this case somebody commented ďMaking such a big deal [of baptism] really goes against our atheist cause.Ē

Whose side are you on? The father needs support for it is his choice not yours to oppose the baptism. Baptism is a big deal when it commits a child to a faith that has violent scriptures and threatens  unbaptised with some punishment. Is that the kind of message you want a child to hear.

Plus the fact that for religion it is a big deal and that is important. Infant baptism is the number one reason why Christianity has so much power in society and schools.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Friendly Atheist's post.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Canít Baptize Son Without Atheist Fatherís Approval

www.patheos.com

Child baptism is evil for it accuses the child of needing forgiveness and ignores the fact that unbaptised people are generally as good as baptised. Its a quack rite that commits you to an evil violent God of lies and murder such as you find in the Bible.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Aaron Rieder's comment.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Canít Baptize Son Without Atheist Fatherís Approval
www.patheos.com

Aaron Rieder For many religions such as Catholicism baptism is more than a dedication ritual. The Church says it creates an "ontological" change. And the child becomes duty bound to obey the cruel and superstitious rules of the Church. And dedication to a God and Jesus who were downright vicious in the Bible is not a good thing.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Brandon Mikula's comment.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Canít Baptize Son Without Atheist Fatherís Approval
www.patheos.com

It is not about that man and woman only. It will give more rights to others in similar situations. The fact of the matter is that a secular state should not care about a spiritual ritual and thus has the right to order that parents like that man and woman should leave the baptism decision to the child.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Philip Martin's comment.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Canít Baptize Son Without Atheist Fatherís Approval
www.patheos.com

A law against forcing membership in a religion on a baby or child would need to ban child baptism. It would seem odd to ban forms of child initiation such as circumcision and not ban infant baptism. Baptism is not violent like circumcision but both reflect one bad principle and that principle is that religion and faith matter more than the child. That principle is where the violence starts and gets enabled.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch likes Beware of False Kabbalah's photo.

Karen Berg and "The Light"

Ever wondered why Karen Berg, the leader of the Kabbalah Centre cult, keeps referring to "the Light" when she appears to be speaking about the Creator? Why not just say, "the Creator" or "YHVH יהוה" - why does she keep saying "the Light"?

The Zohar does not use this way of referencing the Creator, it uses "The Holy One Blessed be He", or "the Creator" or "Hashem"

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Mary Haybyrne's comment.

Monica Gallen If you would read the Bible, the book which the Church hails as God's infallible word, and see all the violence that God commanded. Women were stoned to death for adultery. Babies were slaughtered in genocide. If you are Catholic or Christian your faith is founded on blood. Maybe some day ISIS will be preaching peace but that does not change the fact that it does not hate violence enough to drop its scriptures.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch likes John Halligan's post.

Unspeakable, horrific scenes from Orlando today. My heart goes out to all those affected. Not long after the first anniversary of our historic referendum, we're reminded in the most brutal fashion that there are still vicious bigots who want inflict their hate on the gay community and attempt to derail society's inevitable journey towards equality. And again, again, again; the wanton irresponsibility of American gun laws there for all to see.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch likes John Halligan's post.

The Chilcot Report finally confirms what the dogs in the street have known since 2003: the invasion of Iraq was based on a web of lies and deceit which has resulted in the deaths of far more people than were killed under Saddam Hussein's brutal regime. Not only that, it has destabilised the entire Middle East, and its consequences are still being felt around the world, not least with the horrific ISIS bombing in Iraq this week. Tony Blair is culpable. He led his country to war under false pretences.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Gareth O'Callaghan's photo.

Breaking the silence is an excellent source of information for Church cover up

Raphoe diocese covered up stuff - it was happening all over

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on BBC Sunday Morning Live's photo.

Religious education is not education. Religionists still say the Bible is true despite the repeated and successful debunking of that book. It is the word of man not God. Education about religion would be fine as long as it avoids any unfair influencing of the pupils. Somebody wrote above that you cannot prove a negative Ė eg that there is no God.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.

Jayne Challinor The worst thing about Grace is that she is immune to any point of view but her own Christian view. She wastes our time by putting nonsense on as if she is interested in truth. She is not.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to John Mackintosh-Wood's comment.

Tess Wysocki What people forget is that with Christianity and Islam you don't separate religion from anything else. Thus a committed Catholic in politics is expected to do politics religiously or in a Catholic way. You cannot say a Catholic or Muslim nation starting a war is not expression a form of religion by it.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to John Mackintosh-Wood's comment.

Helen Wood Read the Bible. Moses and God waged wars. So did Muhammad in the name of God. Wise up

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Mark Tait's comment.

Grace Dalton You are arguing, "I don't know if it is true therefore it is true". Smarter people than you Grace have found that Christianity is a man-made religion with loads of errors. No historian or scientist is a Christian in the tradition sense. The Christians are more like doubters.
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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.

Hanif Qadir, Active Change Foundation, says "it's no surprise ...

I praise you for commenting that "The Bible's violence was specific to particular situations; then Jesus taught that, from now on, we must be peaceful. " But as violence is to be seen as a detestable evil I feel that any scripture that justifies it should be dropped. Real people died because of "God's" commands.

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Hanif Qadir, Active Change Foundation, says "it's no surprise ...


I salute your comment, "IS don't represent Muslims - but they do represent Islam. Obviously, most Muslims are terrific people - but they're in fact ignoring significant chunks of Muhammed's teaching." That is true. Man made religion leads to cherry picking and deceit. The media won't admit that non-violent Muslims do not understand their prophet or are cherry-picking for it fears that the truth.

Yes - there are no verses in the Koran saying the violence must be stopped. The verse that says that to kill one innocent person is to kill everybody on earth on Allah's scales is itself hate speech. It does not help to exaggerate evil. But incredibly the Koran says in the next verse that killing is fine. The only way to reconcile the two verses is to hold that there is no such thing as an innocent person. The Koran teaches that everybody is born Muslim until led astray by man-made religion so everybody is an apostate and apostates are sentenced to death.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.  20 November 2016 12:44


You are taking the gospel text out of context. Jesus rewarded the criminal for saying he deserved to die. The doctrine that Christianity does not endorse capital punishment is liberal tosh.