Do we prevent somebody being hurt by superstition or faith by rejecting and challenging those things? 

Is it mistaken to support organised religion in membership or donations?

If people do good because they are human, not because God prompts them then is it right to risk giving God any credit when they alone own their good?

Patrick H
Gormley


Cheap forgiveness insults forgiveness and the victims of wrongdoing and the wrongdoer! It even insults God!

Christianity promotes fake forgiveness by pressuring the person to forgive and offering a God who gives cheap forgiveness.   God is used as an excuse for weak lazy sentimental hypocritical forgiveness.

Forgiveness may be a case of only forgiving the person you like or if you find enough in common with them. But this makes it about yourself and how you feel about them. It’s a fragile forgiveness that can undo itself in seconds so there may be no real value in it. It is about you not the other so it is not really forgiveness and does not offer the other help to change for the better though learning from the experience. Memories fade about how bad the thing you did was and how bad you were. You end up being “forgiven”. That is not forgiveness but time.

Christianity gets you to forgive bad people by making you see them as children of God and other things so that you think you like them enough to forgive.

Forgiveness by its nature is something the other has the right to refuse even if you are repentant and have done a 180% turn. You are not owed forgiveness and the other person must give it freely and without pressure. Forgiveness is cheapened and any good results are belittled and made shallow if the person is obligated to forgive.

Yet religion promotes itself with this God who forgives on request!

God must tell you then if you are forgiven on an individual basis. The Christian cannot know that he or she is really forgiven for many feel forgiven and are not. The notion that life is going better or is still good following doing some thing bad may be taken as a sign of divine favour and forgiveness but that is a dangerous assumption. The notion of God and his mercy then leads to cheap forgiveness. It is about cheap forgiveness. That makes it extremist when we are talking about grave acts against humanity. What happens is the person ends up feeling forgiven and that is where the trouble starts. Imagine if you felt forgiven by the children you molested even if they do not talk to you to tell you? God is about trying to feel forgiven and is not about trying to be forgiven. Some disagree but the fact remains their belief that they are forgiven matters to them not the belief being true.


Was Nietzsche correct in saying that if you abandon God and if there is no God then you end up with the Christian core issues of, “Have I done wrong?” “Why is it wrong?” “I am immoral.” “Do I have a way out through divine mercy and redemption?” So you end up stuck with sin and what your conscience judges you to be. What is destructive about that?

 

It is said that when you have sinned, one response is to repent and turn away from it, the other is to become the sin and so justify it and embrace it. The order of importance is embrace, then become then justify.